How to best use varunastra?

now that you mention it, yah that is probably the case, a shame
yes it's local, it should say "hit with this weapon cannot be evaded"

Anyway, moon bender and this weapon are both great

ice crash is a very good choice with this weapon, imma try to make a build again
I will never be good but always I try to improve.
Dernière édition par Geisalt#1772, le 16 mars 2016 à 13:32:44
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Deadpeng a écrit :


This weapon over here costed me only 20 chaos and no amount of investment in your Varunstras can ever beat the DPS you can get out of this hammer. Just because you are trying hard, it does not mean some low budget weapon GGG made will work out.


To the other players who found my comment arrogant and offensive. I am sorry if I sounded that way, but in no way I meant any offense. More importantly, what are you trying to achieve by dismissing my comment?

If it is a sad truth that GGG made a weapon that does not work as well as it seems, it is better to acknowledge it than trying to build romantic ideas around making it work. The reason I linked my mace is not to show off, but to show that my mace is CRAP, and even that crap mace can perform much better than this unique. While I agree that uniques are meant for players who cant find expensive weapons, but 20 chaos for a weapon that can achieve so much more damage than that unique is expensive? Even a critical strike dagger is not much more expensive.

If you guys really care about OP, you should be brutally honest in pointing out that it is much better to just use another inexpensive weapon rather than telling him nice stuff like 'Hey, that weapon can still work' Now he is even starting to believe that he can make a good build from that weapon judging from the posts above.

Continue bashing me for being 'unkind' and continue feeding him ideas and let him make one whole build out of it only to learn the hard way. Then we shall see who is the real nice guy here.
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Deadpeng a écrit :
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Sorry man but Im a big boy, I can take care of my self, thanks though. And if youre curious, I have played my fair share of OP stuff, this thread isnt about any of that, its about varunastra.
Dernière édition par Oaken#2581, le 16 mars 2016 à 15:08:38
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Deadpeng a écrit :
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Deadpeng a écrit :


This weapon over here costed me only 20 chaos and no amount of investment in your Varunstras can ever beat the DPS you can get out of this hammer. Just because you are trying hard, it does not mean some low budget weapon GGG made will work out.


To the other players who found my comment arrogant and offensive. I am sorry if I sounded that way, but in no way I meant any offense. More importantly, what are you trying to achieve by dismissing my comment?

If it is a sad truth that GGG made a weapon that does not work as well as it seems, it is better to acknowledge it than trying to build romantic ideas around making it work. The reason I linked my mace is not to show off, but to show that my mace is CRAP, and even that crap mace can perform much better than this unique. While I agree that uniques are meant for players who cant find expensive weapons, but 20 chaos for a weapon that can achieve so much more damage than that unique is expensive? Even a critical strike dagger is not much more expensive.

If you guys really care about OP, you should be brutally honest in pointing out that it is much better to just use another inexpensive weapon rather than telling him nice stuff like 'Hey, that weapon can still work' Now he is even starting to believe that he can make a good build from that weapon judging from the posts above.

Continue bashing me for being 'unkind' and continue feeding him ideas and let him make one whole build out of it only to learn the hard way. Then we shall see who is the real nice guy here.


Firstly, this mace is not crap at all, 322 physical dps is HUGE. above 310 the only upgrade worthy is MIRRORED GEAR. The problem is the direct competition with doryani's catalyst, this is why maces and scepter have very low value. Dory is too good and too cheap.

secondly, varunastra is not a crap unique, it has potentials for "specials builds" or to replace a low tier weapon.

Thirdly there is no third.


Templar varunastra...

it's not very good, RT & avatar of fire cold to fire + ice crash

http://poedb.tw/us/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAUBAQHcA3UEswUtCEkLwRQgGjgdFCE0I9MkmycvKCouUzKJMtE1kjrYOuE7OzwFQT9BdEMxRUdHfkqYTP9N404qUEdR5lWpVuhXl1h3WfNbr18EXz9gQWNwZU1nm2jyagFvJ287cql07XYrdqx3U3fjd-V4DXloeu982YCKgpuE2YVSi0-LjI9Gj2CQVZErlFyXeZe0mjuaaptqna6exZ_fogCmV6cIqW6sqq2Nr42y3LQvtfK9Nr6nwBrAZsEEzGbPftNv2L3ZYdrB3Q3gleRR6hjr7uw47w7vfPAf8kX3MvdN-d3-Cv6P

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DPS should be ok but the dual wield breaks the build, but it was to use


it has 25% increased aoe, very usefull
I will never be good but always I try to improve.
Dernière édition par Geisalt#1772, le 16 mars 2016 à 15:23:57
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Hey guys, bought two varunastras and made a build that i will be starting soon. I am curious what you guys think of the sword.

Currently I am planning a cyclone build. My planned passive tree features, at lvl 85:
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4 jewel slots
187% life
RT
662% damage
106% attack speed
Among other stuff

This is a healthy amount of stats, which ofc is possible because of the swords ability to take advantage of all 1h weapon type bonuses.

Now I am wondering, where do you go from here? You got an effective use of the mana gain on hit, effective use of the weapon type thing, however, the weapons dps itself is not that great (272dps~ in my case).

Is the weapon just mediocre? You can easily get 1h weapons with more pdps than varunastra, which will cost you in passive tree strength, but doesn't that just compensate for itself?

Seems to me the biggest strength of the sword is the mana on hit, however mana leech isnt that rare nowadays anyway.

As per the title, how to best use varunastra, and push it to its absolute limit?


You did ask about whether the weapon is mediocre compared to other average weapons. So I am answering that question.

And I did not say you are a small boy.
2 words deadly diletante cluster
I've been playing with this sword in PHC almost since the start and I'm loving it (the freedom it allows). At the start of the league it was very cheap, a few chaos, so I bought a few and ripped one to test in Std too. Both builds aim to be more defensive than offensive.

PHC Gladiator, non-crit, frenzy charges, using frost blades / frenzy for singletarget & getting up charges on bosses. Most of the gear is self-found / self-crafted, the rest are budget uniques (except the sword which it seems got up in price quite a lot)

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Std Gladiator using RT Cyclone. The tree could use some improvemnt, but the general idea is that. ~50k dps and very tanky

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When night falls
She cloaks the world
In impenetrable darkness
Dernière édition par geolan31#1099, le 25 mars 2016 à 17:52:21
So I usually don't post anything ever and I am currently on my tablet so forgive any autocorrect but I threw together a build this morning based off 1 varunastra for cyclone. Using evasion and energy shield for defenses getting chaos inoculated and rolling a trickster for the movement passive plus the extra evasion and Es I don't have a need for health and mana pots and I don't have to roll bonus health or mana regeneration just a bit of life leech and ghost reaver next to CI. Cyclone has no cost since its a movement skill and you have the tricksters passive so you can stack as many auras as you can. just focus on damage nodes Eva rating and ES nodes plus resistances and you can use whatever pots you want. Towards the top of the tree there is a physical damage passive that gives you 5% of your physical damage as bonus chaos damage and a poison on critical passive for daggers in the big dagger circle to the right of that. Now I am by no means an expert at theory crafting but I have a ton of fun doing it and this one has me more excited than anything else I've done so far.

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