Zealots Oath Build

alright so I was trying to dance around as many life nodes to try and get life regen without picking up life % and came up with this. i think that's essentially 6.4% life regen which translates into ES Regen. Am I too spread out to do a lightning templar this way?

https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgUABVv56ILHKPrr7riTMtFFR2usN0eUoNpiaHSMdk3YOtjsOClP5CK1BPfBJIt8uxkuJ-3E9j0Pkc5XDdlhu-0t0l8_wQRVtZ7N0iFQUC7_og_7qqC08wZWY9eGFdeGriy_wcV_xhzckye0DOq6PI5XyQ==

The idea I was thinking about was to use tempest Shield(Ele prolif etc.) and maybe Storm call(Conc etc.). Maybe if I grab Vitality, Ghost Reaver and Life Leech too? Maybe attach Storm Call to cast on melee stun and use shield charge with faster attacks too?

Aegis Aurora and veil of the night.

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Magnetic_n0rth a écrit :

alright so I was trying to dance around as many life nodes to try and get life regen without picking up life % and came up with this. i think that's essentially 6.4% life regen which translates into ES Regen. Am I too spread out to do a lightning templar this way?

https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgUABVv56ILHKPrr7riTMtFFR2usN0eUoNpiaHSMdk3YOtjsOClP5CK1BPfBJIt8uxkuJ-3E9j0Pkc5XDdlhu-0t0l8_wQRVtZ7N0iFQUC7_og_7qqC08wZWY9eGFdeGriy_wcV_xhzckye0DOq6PI5XyQ==

The idea I was thinking about was to use tempest Shield(Ele prolif etc.) and maybe Storm call(Conc etc.). Maybe if I grab Vitality, Ghost Reaver and Life Leech too? Maybe attach Storm Call to cast on melee stun and use shield charge with faster attacks too?

Aegis Aurora and veil of the night.

I don't know what to say. There is a lot of maybe here.
Your passive tree is incomplete. You have only picked up 7% block chance while using a shield.

What is your main attack? What is your gear?

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Aegis Aurora and veil of the night.

This made me not even check the passive tree, sorry sir.

Depending on the level you want to play this on, assuming veil of the night = normal difficulty/cruel(maybe?) only. This coupled with the fact you say you take 6.4 life regen leads me to assume it's a fail.

Peace,

-Boem-

Edit : could not resist and checked, it's a fail. Also your point investment is inefficient.

For example, completing the templar ES cluster and going to the 1% life regen would be better then taking the 3 nodes of 0.4% in the marauder tree, since you would have a higher base ES.

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Magnetic_n0rth a écrit :

alright so I was trying to dance around as many life nodes to try and get life regen without picking up life % and came up with this. i think that's essentially 6.4% life regen which translates into ES Regen. Am I too spread out to do a lightning templar this way?

https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgUABVv56ILHKPrr7riTMtFFR2usN0eUoNpiaHSMdk3YOtjsOClP5CK1BPfBJIt8uxkuJ-3E9j0Pkc5XDdlhu-0t0l8_wQRVtZ7N0iFQUC7_og_7qqC08wZWY9eGFdeGriy_wcV_xhzckye0DOq6PI5XyQ==

The idea I was thinking about was to use tempest Shield(Ele prolif etc.) and maybe Storm call(Conc etc.). Maybe if I grab Vitality, Ghost Reaver and Life Leech too? Maybe attach Storm Call to cast on melee stun and use shield charge with faster attacks too?

Aegis Aurora and veil of the night.

Okay, first and foremost, stop using poebuilder.com. It's buttfuck ugly and laggy. Use the official passive skill tree builder.

If you want the breakdown of your passive skill tree, you can use pathofpoe.com to get an accurate breakdown.

Just looking at your passive skill tree is killing my brain cells. I suggest you take a look at the compendium I've been working on.

Passive Skill Tree:

1. Get Inner Force. No reason not too.

2. Get the +10 life node at the Scion start. No reason not too.

3. Get the +30 attribute nodes. These are among the strongest in the game. No reason not too.

4. You grabbed a few block nodes. Note that max block requires massive investment and block is only really good if you max it out. Either drop the block nodes or invest enough into it that you get max block.

TL;DR: Your passive skill tree is 99% "travelling" nodes, which do nothing without real nodes. +10 attribute nodes will only be useful if you grab other nodes that synergize with them. For instance, all of your +10 intelligence nodes will give 5 base mana each, and a single 20% mana regen node would drastically increase their overall effectiveness.

Edit:

I don't think you know anything about this game. I suggest you spend some time looking at the Path of Exile wiki. There's a lot of useful information there.

For instance, the minimum required resistances for Merciless is 75%. Veil of the Night sets your elemental resistances to 0%, no matter what. This is a HUGE detriment to your build and you'll die quickly and often.

Additionally, Aegis Aurora can be an expensive item. Non-legacy, which is infinitely cheaper, costs anywhere from 5-10 exalteds in standard. That currency can be spent on things that allow you to better farm for more currency.

Unless you're already rich, which is unlikely since it doesn't seem you know anything about this game, you should focus on things that augment your ability to farm for more currency and items you could sell. I'd suggest looking up a build that uses Cybil's Paw, as it uses a max block build which means high survivability.

Wow!.... Thanks I guess... Next time I post in gameplay help i'll be sure to have it all figured out I guess.

Also I was just trying to figure out if 6.4% shield regen was worth picking up and if so how to fill in the gaps. The premise is to use a shield offensively but the only way I see that as being possible is through a trigger gem combo of some sort like cast on stun->Storm call and use shield charge to trigger the stun. Obviously I planned on picking up other nodes and 71% block without Tempest Shield which would max out my block chance. It wouldn't be overcapped but I've been to higher levels. i just like to build characters around my particular tastes and not everyone elses. It's really my fault for thinking that "gameplay Help" actually meant helping. It won't happen again, my bad.

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Magnetic_n0rth a écrit :

Wow!.... Thanks I guess... Next time I post in gameplay help i'll be sure to have it all figured out I guess.

Also I was just trying to figure out if 6.4% shield regen was worth picking up and if so how to fill in the gaps. The premise is to use a shield offensively but the only way I see that as being possible is through a trigger gem combo of some sort like cast on stun->Storm call and use shield charge to trigger the stun. Obviously I planned on picking up other nodes and 71% block without Tempest Shield which would max out my block chance. It wouldn't be overcapped but I've been to higher levels. i just like to build characters around my particular tastes and not everyone elses. It's really my fault for thinking that "gameplay Help" actually meant helping. It won't happen again, my bad.

Gameplay help is for help.

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Natharias a écrit :

Gameplay help is for help.

...and to your credit you provided good info, but the sentiment of help is lost when things like the following are stated.

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I don't think you know anything about this game. I suggest you spend some time looking at the Path of Exile wiki. There's a lot of useful information there.

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it's a fail. Also your point investment is inefficient.

There are other statements but they seem to have been edited out.

Your suggestion about Cybil's Paw is spot on and I actually have two from my incinerate tank experience.

I'm thinking i will want to grab crit on a dagger though so that's somewhat of a dilemma. I'll reiterate what i am trying to build upon...

Zealots Oath and Aegis Aurora.

Maximum use of tempest Shield.

Lightning Attacks and offensive Shield capabilities. i wish Shield Charge wasn't so bad otherwise this build would be fairly simple. If anyone knows a neat spell that can be used as a result of a trigger effect from a shield bash that would be cool. I chose storm Call because it was a AoE skill. My initial theory had radius nodes but I'm just unsure. I typically play melee and so spells are somewhat foreign except for leveling.

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Magnetic_n0rth a écrit :

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Natharias a écrit :

Gameplay help is for help.

...and to your credit you provided good info, but the sentiment of help is lost when things like the following are stated.

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I don't think you know anything about this game. I suggest you spend some time looking at the Path of Exile wiki. There's a lot of useful information there.

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it's a fail. Also your point investment is inefficient.

There are other statements but they seem to have been edited out.

Your suggestion about Cybil's Paw is spot on and I actually have two from my incinerate tank experience.

I'm thinking i will want to grab crit on a dagger though so that's somewhat of a dilemma. I'll reiterate what i am trying to build upon...

Zealots Oath and Aegis Aurora.

Maximum use of tempest Shield.

Lightning Attacks and offensive Shield capabilities. i wish Shield Charge wasn't so bad otherwise this build would be fairly simple. If anyone knows a neat spell that can be used as a result of a trigger effect from a shield bash that would be cool. I chose storm Call because it was a AoE skill. My initial theory had radius nodes but I'm just unsure. I typically play melee and so spells are somewhat foreign except for leveling.

I think the people replying here have been unnecessarily harsh with you. Of course you should come here for gameplay help.

Sounds like an interesting idea. Maybe a spell totem that casts storm calls while you spam enduring cry to get all attention and proliferate shocks via tempest shield and blocks.

I was thinking dual curse. Conductivity + Elemental weakness for more damage. Accessible via items like windscream so passive points can be spent on other things.

With zealout's oath and/or ghost reaver + energy shield replenishing as you block with aegis you could make quite a sturdy charachter.

Arc with cast on crit? But perhaps this is doing too many things at once.

1. Place storm call spell totem.
2. Get the attention via endurying cry.
3. Dual curse.
4. Start attacking with your main skill <undecided>.
5. Watch as things die around you.


I think you should have some sort of main attack on your own to leech es. Maybe someone got ideas here?

Just a few thoughs i had about this idea. Cheers

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Magnetic_n0rth a écrit :

...and to your credit you provided good info, but the sentiment of help is lost when things like the following are stated.

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Magnetic_n0rth a écrit :

There are other statements but they seem to have been edited out.

Not by GGG, and they weren't meant in a hostile way. If you took them in such a way, at least from mine, I'm sorry you feel that way.

However, I judge a player's knowledge and understanding of a game by how they compose messages on forums. I never look at a player's profile and look up information there.

So based on what I read in this thread, I was under the impression you had no understanding of this game and I must assume, since I'm trying to help, that you have no understanding of this game. That leads me to make certain comments about Cybil's Paw, getting a Portal gem, trying a summoner, and so on.

Another big factor of how I see a player is how they craft skill trees. It doesn't really matter which builder you use, it all translates to the same information. It's like comparing English English to American English. Both are correct, yet different. So please understand my comment about the poebuilder.com is purely based on preference.

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Magnetic_n0rth a écrit :

Zealots Oath and Aegis Aurora.

Maximum use of tempest Shield.

Lightning Attacks and offensive Shield capabilities. i wish Shield Charge wasn't so bad otherwise this build would be fairly simple. If anyone knows a neat spell that can be used as a result of a trigger effect from a shield bash that would be cool. I chose storm Call because it was a AoE skill. My initial theory had radius nodes but I'm just unsure. I typically play melee and so spells are somewhat foreign except for leveling.

If you want to build around Zealot's Oath, you need to maximize your energy shield. The disadvantage is that you end up with much, much less armor and that means even a legacy Aegis Aurora will be less effective. However, more ES means that Aegis Aurora can constantly refil ES with consecutive blocks, but at a reduced amount.

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kompaniet a écrit :

I think the people replying here have been unnecessarily harsh with you. Of course you should come here for gameplay help.

Sounds like an interesting idea. Maybe a spell totem that casts storm calls while you spam enduring cry to get all attention and proliferate shocks via tempest shield and blocks.

I was thinking dual curse. Conductivity + Elemental weakness for more damage. Accessible via items like windscream so passive points can be spent on other things.

With zealout's oath and/or ghost reaver + energy shield replenishing as you block with aegis you could make quite a sturdy charachter.

Arc with cast on crit? But perhaps this is doing too many things at once.

1. Place storm call spell totem.
2. Get the attention via endurying cry.
3. Dual curse.
4. Start attacking with your main skill <undecided>.
5. Watch as things die around you.


I think you should have some sort of main attack on your own to leech es. Maybe someone got ideas here?

Just a few thoughs i had about this idea. Cheers

Dang totems is a really good Idea. I'll see what I can do. I feel like my main attack being undecided is kind of my problem. After reading through all the info again that seems to be the issue. I was wondering about Arc. Maybe just spamming that and have that leech life for me. Thanks for the ideas...

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Not by GGG, and they weren't meant in a hostile way. If you took them in such a way, at least from mine, I'm sorry you feel that way.

However, I judge a player's knowledge and understanding of a game by how they compose messages on forums. I never look at a player's profile and look up information there.

So based on what I read in this thread, I was under the impression you had no understanding of this game and I must assume, since I'm trying to help, that you have no understanding of this game. That leads me to make certain comments about Cybil's Paw, getting a Portal gem, trying a summoner, and so on.

Another big factor of how I see a player is how they craft skill trees. It doesn't really matter which builder you use, it all translates to the same information. It's like comparing English English to American English. Both are correct, yet different. So please understand my comment about the poebuilder.com is purely based on preference.

I'm certainly partly to blame for being indecisive. I really do appreciate the info you provided.

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If you want to build around Zealot's Oath, you need to maximize your energy shield. The disadvantage is that you end up with much, much less armor and that means even a legacy Aegis Aurora will be less effective. However, more ES means that Aegis Aurora can constantly refil ES with consecutive blocks, but at a reduced amount.

So, if I understand you correctly you are saying ES/Evasion is easier than ES/Armor?

I took in some of the info and decided to give a little bit more effort into the actual theory of mine. Here is the passive allocation. If you still think it's spread too thin then could you have a go at it? I understand if you don't want to though.


http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgUBBVsMfRB_EZYR2xXXFy8ZLhoyHNwdFB6BJIsksCftKMUo-ikuKU8svy3SLv8vbzLRN0c4GzrYPI49D0NjRUdHBkuNTDVN2FBQUWBVtVXWVmNXDVfJWPVfP19qZOdmnmh0a6xwfXC7cU18uHy7f8aApILHhq6G0Yx2j0aP-pHOkyeUoJrPncSezaC0og-nCKmVtAy1BLcxuJO77cEEwcXC7MNtxPbGntIh14bZE9lh2mLb596w44LkIucL6rrr7uwY7DjxrPMG8773wfno-tL7qv8c

So I guess I'll do some explaining before I finish this up.

I chose to pick up ES on shield to maximize Aurora's effectiveness.

I picked up as much Aura Effect/Aura Reserve as I could because I was thinking Determination, Discipline and Vitality for auras. Note: This is why I like PoEBuilder. It gives me a glimpse at mana reserves and other mechanics before I get ahead of myself.

Scratch Veil. I overlooked how non-viable it is for that lightning thorns modifier. A mistake of mine due to trying to find a head piece perfect for tempest shield.

Instead run alphas howl for auras with reduced mana gem.

The rest really depends on how I setup my skills.

Ideally Armor/ES/Resists caster modifiers (ie cast speed, crit, mana and mana regen etc.) would be where I need to prioritize my gear. HP regen if I can fit it into somewhere.

Also as stated above i was considering Arc as a main skill.

So that's where I am at right now.