I can't afford POE anymore...

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Real_Wolf a écrit :

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TohtoriKuolema a écrit :

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Real_Wolf a écrit :

I am definitely casual now, playing 1-2 hours a day at most, some days not playing.

I still enjoy PoE, I am still playing, still finding upgrades, still enjoying myself.


Maybe people are just playing the game wrong. if you can't find an upgrade, you probably have very good gear. Reroll, make a new build, play self found if you want more of a challenge -> Gear is now easier to get for this new character



But yeah, maybe I am wrong, maybe the fact that I enjoy the game and have since I started in CB because I don't play maps isn't correct. Or maybe people just have unreal expectations

My thus far 3 stuck self found characters in Ambush disagree heavily with this post.

I managed to get stuck on cruel with my summoner who was unable to get resistances/link gear.
I managed to get stuck on act2 merciless with my selfcast fireballer who just couldn't get enough manaregen and resistances.
And now I am getting stuck on act2 cruel with my facebreaker infernal blow build due to low resistances and poor defences.

Now, how is gear easier to get self found, please explain and explain good. My experience of 500 hours of self found failure is listening.

I didn't say gear is easier to find. I said it is entirely possible to self progress. Maybe your build isn't suitable, maybe you are not playing properly. Dunno the reason you have the problem, but my summoner and my old FB build both managed cruel just fine, though admittedly both are slightly old now

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munkytos a écrit :

Games are time sinks, just because you can't invest as much time into the game as the next person doesn't mean the game should be balanced around you.

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symban a écrit :

PoE population is divided into a trade pyramid by design. You can clearly see this in crafting/high end maps/atziri maps.

If you check out the average amount of drops for any single character (even some extremely lucky ones) it will be quite clear that what they loot on their own will never be enough to attempt to craft anything, run high end maps in a continuous manner or run Atziri.

Bottom will feed rare stuff towards top so that top can run maps/craft, meanwhile top will throw bones to bottom.

When you zoom out and look at the system as whole (which is what I believe GGG does, along with keeping and eye on the top of pyramid) it looks all good. But when you zoom in and look at the experience of a single person (who only cares for his own personal experience, and does not care for the whole of system even in the slightest) you would see that they keep going with the hopes of achieving more, but whether they keep going or not depends on the feel of progress they experience.

In PoE this feel of progress is quite low. And as bottom gives up and leaves, people who used to be in middle of pyramid are now the new bottom. These people used to keep going in the hopes of reaching higher, but they found themselves at bottom with having to be satisfied with bones. Hence discontent from old players who does not invest as much time/trade as much/party as much etc.

In the long run top of pyramid will never suffer, as any number of bottom player loss will be covered and even overcome by bots pumping stuff into the economy. Old middle will become new bottom and will be disappointment with this new situation after all the time they put in the game.

In my opinion, anyone who plays ARPG plays it only for their own personal experience. Noone would willingly sacrifice their own gameplay experience for the good of whole community of total strangers. I believe Blizzard noticed this fact and is attempting to salvage D3 by changing the focus from overall system, to individual experience only. Grim Dawn is already designed for individual experience only.

I really doubt PoE can maintain a healthy population in the long run with a pyramid focus.
Giving the option of (league or not) individual experience focus would fix that.

My solution for that would be: Binding Orb
Drop rate as high as alch, with also a recipe where you can turn a fuse into a binding orb.
Effect is rerolling affix/suffixes values to be more on par with itemlevel (no low lvl mod tiers). Other effect is of course binding it on account (cant be traded, and dropping on ground destroys the item).

This way economy would still stay there, community wouldn't be splintered (meh), SFL demands would be satisfied, more importantly bottom could rely on their own effort rather than relying on the bones thrown to them.

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munkytos a écrit :

Games are time sinks, just because you can't invest as much time into the game as the next person doesn't mean the game should be balanced around you.

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morbo a écrit :

I hope GGG is aware that without casual players that play maybe 50 hours a month, there is no economy and endgame crafting for no-lifers.

Because only casual players are willing to part with (=sell) their only exalt they looted, so that 'top' players can afford to throw 100s exalts on gambling a single item.

The game is designed so that if everyone would want to do eternal / exalt crafting, nobody would be able to do it. If everyone would want to play high maps and own mirror worthy items, nobody would.

The pyramidal economy needs casuals that are willing to forgo a good portion of the game. When all casuals are shunned away, only bots & RMT can still feed the economy and the game.

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morbo a écrit :

I hope GGG is aware that without casual players that play maybe 50 hours a month, there is no economy and endgame crafting for no-lifers.

Because only casual players are willing to part with (=sell) their only exalt they looted, so that 'top' players can afford to throw 100s exalts on gambling a single item.

The game is designed so that if everyone would want to do eternal / exalt crafting, nobody would be able to do it. If everyone would want to play high maps and own mirror worthy items, nobody would.

The pyramidal economy needs casuals that are willing to forgo a good portion of the game. When all casuals are shunned away, only bots & RMT can still feed the economy and the game.