Anyone know a build that doesn't spam ONE skill 99% of the time?

Isn't that the driving force in a development team tho?
Boring first person shooters aside, history shows that companies have to innovate to keep their users impressed.
This works out for some companies, for others.. not so much.
Basically some companies "innovate" way too much and create entirely different games that have nothing to do with it's predecessors. Basically my advice is to take what made these games tick, make it better and add new features. (Are you reading, Square Enix?)
I would love to have a rotatable camera in the game for example, as much as I'd love more utility based skills that open up builds by playing with a certain style. Think of a CM Archon Wizard in D3 for example, that worked beautifully because it just felt like every piece of the puzzle was in the right place with some crit rate and the skill rotations. Needless to say GGG did innovate a lot with the skill tree (even tho it was somewhat stolen from Final Fantasy X) but from what I see it's mostly pure damage stacking instead of using a variety of utility-based moves which in the end would require more skill. I have yet to die because I messed up miserably, I die because I didn't get enough life or didn't have maxed out resistances...

Yep, we need more utility/crowd control moves.

I agree. Invincible Archon Wizard was a hell of a lot of fun.

Those of you who responded constructively: thank you, and I am aware that some builds do regularly use several different skills.
But as your character levels up and gets better gear, particularly 5L and 6L pieces, nearly every build ends up using one skill primarily. And with almost every public group I run with, everyone in the group is spamming one skill, with the exception of the occaisional curse (and flask).
Furthermore, some of you have stated that this game (and its predecessors) are one-skill spamming games, and that diablo2, for ex, had 2 "bars." That is just... so wrong. I had at least 12 hotkeys assigned in diablo2 for every character, and at least half of those skills I used regularly. Yes, the old ui required you to switch the "equipped" skill with a hotkey, and then right/left click to use the skill. But if you played diablo2 with only 2 skills, I feel sorry for you.
And the same goes for this game. If you truly enjoy doing nothing but holding right click... honestly... you have no taste in games, and no desire to challenge yourself. Any ARPG with at least semi-interesting gameplay should require the player to respond differently to different attacks or situations.
Is this really what gaming is coming to? I remember when games were simpler, but constantly kept you on the edge of your seat. This one-click win bull**** keeps me on the edge of consciousness... barely.

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Largefarva a écrit :

If you truly enjoy doing nothing but holding right click... honestly... you have no taste in games, and no desire to challenge yourself.

God people like you just define the word "idiot." So people who don't share your point of view what of game should be have no taste and aren't challenging themself?

Look, if you want more active skills, buffs and debuffs, sweet ask GGG for it, throw out some suggestions and move on. There's no reason to say "anyone who doesn't play games EXACTLY like I do doesn't know what they are doing."

How about this one, if you can't figure out a build that doesn't spam one skill 99% of the time, you have no idea how to make a build and lack any sense of creativity.

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Moosifer a écrit :

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Largefarva a écrit :

If you truly enjoy doing nothing but holding right click... honestly... you have no taste in games, and no desire to challenge yourself.

God people like you just define the word "idiot." So people who don't share your point of view what of game should be have no taste and aren't challenging themself?

Look, if you want more active skills, buffs and debuffs, sweet ask GGG for it, throw out some suggestions and move on. There's no reason to say "anyone who doesn't play games EXACTLY like I do doesn't know what they are doing."

How about this one, if you can't figure out a build that doesn't spam one skill 99% of the time, you have no idea how to make a build and lack any sense of creativity.

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I like rotations too and my char basically plays in this way, with a totem, curses and some summons, then with IS or FP for damage and CC. I use fireball too with resistant mobs, fire works nicely, contrary to what you often see in the forums. I miss real bad a "blink" skill, Torchlight 2 had an amazing one. More debuffs and DOTs would also be nice.

But if some people like to play as simple as possible with a pew-pew skill on the RB, they should be able to enjoy themselves. What you seek is options, not to take away the fun from people, but to offer more ways to have fun... it is quite sad that the OP felt the need to vent their frustration on a style of play just because what he likes is not represented properly in PoE.

To be fair I'd be very interested in seeing skills with stupidly high base mana costs or even, gasp, cooldowns, that are noteably more powerful than spammable skills that you can use in a pinch. Currently all we have like that is bear/fire trap and AA/IC. You can also kind of do this with any skill using remote mines extra damage but it's very convoluted.

Which reminds me, why does the trap skillgem provide no kind of damage bonus while giving a huge cooldown?

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Undon3 a écrit :

I like rotations too and my char basically plays in this way, with a totem, curses and some summons, then with IS or FP for damage and CC. I use fireball too with resistant mobs, fire works nicely, contrary to what you often see in the forums. I miss real bad a "blink" skill, Torchlight 2 had an amazing one. More debuffs and DOTs would also be nice.

But if some people like to play as simple as possible with a pew-pew skill on the RB, they should be able to enjoy themselves. What you seek is options, not to take away the fun from people, but to offer more ways to have fun... it is quite sad that the OP felt the need to vent their frustration on a style of play just because what he likes is not represented properly in PoE.

I will always support someone looking for more options. I love diversity and I think it helps keep the game fresh. At the same time, I hate people who support or need restrictive options. I don't want to be told what is or isn't fun, nor do I want to tell someone else.

The goal of adding more active skills is a good idea, there aren't many support based skills (I think like 2-3 per attribute) but I hate this "if you don't play my way you're doing it wrong" shit.

couldn't agree more tbh, the "hardcore" game, spamming one button 24/7, right :D

and let's not forget 99% of them have searched the internet to find those builds too :p

really some exeptionnal dudes those hardcore gamers if you ask me !

/sarcasm off

Just to play devil's advocate I would have to say with the current state of the game that D3 "builds" (lol) used more varied skills than POE charas.

Before you shit a brick try to remember the D3 playstyle. You used almost every skill on your toolbar, sometimes wishing you had more slots.

I played a Witch Doctor, I would use darts, grasping hands, acid spew, raindance, my pets & a buff. I was always using different skills for different situations & mobs. It wasn't a 1 skill spamfest & all the skills offered a different mechanic to the others which made them better for certain things.

POE has a lot more behind the scenes depth but the current gameplay lacks many of the diverse mechanics we see in other games.

The one thing POE needs is mechanics. Mob mechanics & skill mechanics, that is what makes a truly great game.