[3.10] The Saviour Flicker Strike Champion. All content down.

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EiriniTenecardia a écrit :
So would this guide be updated for Harvest sooner or later? I'm planning on trying it out and minmaxing it, but the changes to the skill tree and some nerfs to Impale here and there are a little daunting.


I am sorry, the build will not be updated in the near future.
I dont have the time currently to invest the required effort into updating all my guides. And I dont want to just write 3.11 into the title so they all will stay 3.10
The build in its base will still work but got hit quite a bit due to saviour and dual wield nerfs.
Clawbased supp + carry guide
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2116480
Molten strike brightbeak nonsense guide
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2067539
Nice build, im working on it atm. Just wanted to ask if I'm missing something here, but why you have multistrike support in vaal double strike setup since it dont work with vaal skills? Would it be better to link chance to bleed support instead and abuse the huge flat phys dmg which these copies hits to bleeding targets?
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kolikkolinTu a écrit :
Nice build, im working on it atm. Just wanted to ask if I'm missing something here, but why you have multistrike support in vaal double strike setup since it dont work with vaal skills? Would it be better to link chance to bleed support instead and abuse the huge flat phys dmg which these copies hits to bleeding targets?


The multistrike is the best support for dmg. If you take it out to give your clones some dmg you take a huge loss whenever they are not up.
They do not gain much from chance to bleed since you have a bleed chance anyways and the flat added damage should be there already.
Clawbased supp + carry guide
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2116480
Molten strike brightbeak nonsense guide
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2067539
Hey,

Do you happen to have an updated PoB (3.11) of this build or does the 3.10 version of the tree still works with the current update?
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DrDraePhD a écrit :
Hey,

Do you happen to have an updated PoB (3.11) of this build or does the 3.10 version of the tree still works with the current update?


I sadly did not find the time to update the buildguide.
https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds?class=Champion&item=The-Saviour&skill=Double-Strike&sort=dps
These should be somewhat close
Clawbased supp + carry guide
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2116480
Molten strike brightbeak nonsense guide
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2067539
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incredibie a écrit :
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DrDraePhD a écrit :
Hey,

Do you happen to have an updated PoB (3.11) of this build or does the 3.10 version of the tree still works with the current update?


I sadly did not find the time to update the buildguide.
https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds?class=Champion&item=The-Saviour&skill=Double-Strike&sort=dps
These should be somewhat close



No problem, thank you for your reply.

With the big nerfs on Saviour, is this build still viable to melt end game bosses?
Dernière édition par DrDraePhD, le 13 juil. 2020 14:15:07
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DrDraePhD a écrit :
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incredibie a écrit :
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DrDraePhD a écrit :
Hey,

Do you happen to have an updated PoB (3.11) of this build or does the 3.10 version of the tree still works with the current update?


I sadly did not find the time to update the buildguide.
https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds?class=Champion&item=The-Saviour&skill=Double-Strike&sort=dps
These should be somewhat close



No problem, thank you for your reply.

With the big nerfs on Saviour, is this build still viable to melt end game bosses?


Saviour didn't really get nerfed that badly.
Its reddit overreacting again.
Sure dual wielding got nerfed but saviour remained pretty much the same.
Single target did not change at all from saviour itself.
The only thing that changed is that saviour does not clear as extreme anymore.
From what ive heared from other people doing the build its even better now because sometimes the clones would clear so fast that you could not keep flickering yourself.
Clawbased supp + carry guide
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2116480
Molten strike brightbeak nonsense guide
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2067539
This is my (way cheaper) take one Saviour/Para Flicker. Also 79/79 block spellblock. it has almost the dps of you high budget build but is cheaper than your low budget.

https://pastebin.com/ccuByM2c

its not minmaxed yet. jewels missing life, no awakened gems etc.

let me know what you think about it :D
Dernière édition par NomadFX, le 17 juil. 2020 07:29:04
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NomadFX a écrit :
This is my (way cheaper) take one Saviour/Para Flicker. Also 79/79 block spellblock. it has almost the dps of you high budget build but is cheaper than your low budget.

https://pastebin.com/ccuByM2c

its not minmaxed yet. jewels missing life, no awakened gems etc.

let me know what you think about it :D


I did look into it and let me go over a few things.
First of all. Its a solid build. Enough offence with decent defence.

But lets check your first statement.
"This is my (way cheaper)"
Your bottled faith alone is more expensive than all gear my character wears in the low budget version. The prices stated are from times where saviour alone was 25ex.
On top of that you use farrul's fur. You just doubled the cost another time.

Let's get to your second statement:
"it has almost the dps"
Lets check the PoB.
Current setup: 20mil vs 20mil
You did check "no boss" vs "Shaper/Guardian". 17mil vs 20mil
You are at max challenger charges. At 8 attacks per second with 25% chance of a charge against a boss you are at 2 charges per second. With this build you melt guardians and Sirus phases in sub 4 seconds so you NEVER are at full charges. I changed that to 5 charges and thats generous. 15mil vs 20mil
You checked "Adrenaline"
Your only source of adrenaline is war banner and its a very short duration. You did not even link increased duration to it. It provides 2.5 seconds of adrenaline. Decide between challenger charges or adrenaline. But not both. 13,5mil vs 20mil (After 2.5s your charge generation goes below 2/s btw)
"Blocked a hit from a unique in the past 10 seconds". Debatable but I keep it on
"Banner stages 50" This assumes that you ran a map beforehand which is not the case for the bigger endgame bosses like elder, uber elder, sirus. (For shaper its fine) This btw takes away adrenaline entirely for those fights
You are using abyssus. I have up to 35k armour. Could just plug it on as well.
Either 8mil vs 20mil or 13,5mil vs 26mil. You can decide.

"almost the dps of you high budget"
Lets put on my high budget vs the corrected pob

13mil vs 53mil (Assuming abyssus)

I don't say your build is not good. It is solid as I said.
You just can't make random statements of which build is better without proper evidence.
If I missed something feel free to hit me up and correct a point I made.

Have a gud night :)
Clawbased supp + carry guide
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2116480
Molten strike brightbeak nonsense guide
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2067539
nice summary, thx! beside sirus i am at 50 banner stages and and bosses dont last more than 3 seconds so i think checking adrenaline is valid. getting 10 challenger charges in no time is no problem, it takes around a second or so but i will keep an eye on it.

weapons are 3 ex max. farruls ~7 ex, bottle 8 ex (dont have it yet) boots where 1.7 ex (lol). rest og the gear is cheap. i read in your pob that your budget is up to 40 ex so thats why i wrote way cheaper.

comparing your videos, our damage is pretty much the same.
but well, need to sleep, will check your feedback in detail tomorrow, thx a lot :)

btw way i changed one ring (still WIP) and bought some awa gems.
this pob should be a bit more accurate. no banner, 5 charges.
https://pastebin.com/5UHFw0WH

my char is 2 days old and far from minmaxed.
Dernière édition par NomadFX, le 17 juil. 2020 22:15:14

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