Stop forcing the campaign

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Frenshi a écrit :

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Mezion a écrit :

it honestly sounds like Diablo 3 is the right game for you. You can jump right in the 'endgame' at level 1.

The problem is the rest of D3 sucks aside from that feature. I doubt anyone would switch over that just to torture themselves with the rest of the game.

But yeah, D3 did do something pretty cool with adventure mode. I'll give them that...and only that.

Personally I find it a bit ridiculous that you can skip the entire story, but the problem is that the story was awful. And even if you liked the story, it is much more in your face than poe, with some 'forced' mini-cutscene/dialogues here and there. Compared to D2 or poe its a lot more annoying to redo. Adventure mode is still somewhat fine I'll give you that.

I hate going through the campaign, the trials and the labs every league.

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dudiobugtron a écrit :

Kids these days! In my day, we needed to play through the game three times on each character! Now you're complaining about having to do it once. *grumbles about whippersnappers*.

Yes, and it was a 10 mile uphill battle all the way in a blizzard.

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korn7809 a écrit :

Having to play through the campaign for EVERY character really kills this game for me. I have little urge to make new characters knowing that I have to do it all over again.

Would be great if you only had to finish the main story on the first character per league. You could simply have all the waypoints unlocked from the start after the first character. Maybe each WP you unlock is unlocked for the whole league so you still have to find them all.

If you are playing more than 2 characters in a new league, you can do it this way:

After character 1 has all the WP - start character number 2 on a different account. You can then party those characters (you can play 2 on one computer according to GGG rules) and give wp easily. With both characters at end game, you will never need to look for wp or slog through the whole game again.

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korn7809 a écrit :

Having to play through the campaign for EVERY character really kills this game for me. I have little urge to make new characters knowing that I have to do it all over again.

Would be great if you only had to finish the main story on the first character per league. You could simply have all the waypoints unlocked from the start after the first character. Maybe each WP you unlock is unlocked for the whole league so you still have to find them all.

and magically get 65 levels? .............

I don't mind havint to level from start to maps. It's having to rush through the zones I don't like or that are +/< my level(which isn't often if rushing through). A lot of time wasted running. It mainly comes down to I want to level in zones I like rather then forced into ones I don't.

Also i have been playing this game for almost 7 years now and have been playing other ARPGs like Diablo (1-3), Tourchlight and others so this is nothing new to me.

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Shagsbeard a écrit :

Realize that there is literally no mechanical difference between playing an instance in the campaign and playing a map. They're the same. It's all attitude that makes them seem different.

This is a really good point. IR/IIQ aside, there is one really big difference between playing the campaign and playing maps, though. When you play the campaign, your character is either a bit useless because it's missing key uniques, skills, gems etc..., or it's a twinked out generic leveller that bears no resemblence to the character you actually want to play. When you get to maps, you have all your uniques, mechanics/gems/etc all up and running, and (if you planned it right) it is actually fun to play.

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korn7809 a écrit :

Having to play through the campaign for EVERY character really kills this game for me. I have little urge to make new characters knowing that I have to do it all over again.

Would be great if you only had to finish the main story on the first character per league. You could simply have all the waypoints unlocked from the start after the first character. Maybe each WP you unlock is unlocked for the whole league so you still have to find them all.

I guess there is Diablo 3 for you where you can skip all the leveling content and go straight to randomized endgame...

The only thing I would like them to do here, is that portals are shared between characters. No change for you first character in the league, but all the other characters you create, gets access to the portals of the first character.

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Shagsbeard a écrit :

Realize that there is literally no mechanical difference between playing an instance in the campaign and playing a map. They're the same. It's all attitude that makes them seem different.

Less item mods on each item and less item mod diversity, make the first half of the campaign pretty bleh. Good for introducing new players to the game, bleh for returning players.