I revisited Grim Dawn and brought something back

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grepman a écrit :

I mean, when a D2 speedrunner tells you to slow the game down and make monster interaction meaningful, you know you done fucked up with the power creep.



ya for real man. He hit the nail right on the head too with time for the monsters to engage you and be able to deploy mechanics. I see so many people saying well, if we slow movespeed and we murder moveskills and take down our aoe... ok some of that might slightly help but if you are still instantly killing everything you engage because power creep has just become ridiculous then having rly slow movespeed and moveskills to get you to the next pack is just making the game feel bad without really fixing the issue right? If you press a button and the mobs in close enough range to be a threat to you instantly die without being able to fight back because youre playing a game where the mobs life seems like its about right for 20k dps and you have 200k dps despite having extremely average to bad gear then youre never going to have meaningful interaction with living monsters.

I can run around with 0% movespeed, no movement skills playing a 0 aoe toe to toe single target melee build and still not have meaningful interaction with monsters. The game will feel like total shit, I will feel so slow and bored I want to dig my eyeballs out with a fork but I will still just instantly kill everything I come in contact with and I wont rly have to play the fights. I get surrounded by 10 mobs, so my 10 attacks per second multistrike 1 shot every monster I hold the button down for 1 second and now there isnt a single mob around me...
I love all you people on the forums, we can disagree but still be friends and respect each other :)
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Snorkle_uk a écrit :
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grepman a écrit :

I mean, when a D2 speedrunner tells you to slow the game down and make monster interaction meaningful, you know you done fucked up with the power creep.



ya for real man. He hit the nail right on the head too with time for the monsters to engage you and be able to deploy mechanics. I see so many people saying well, if we slow movespeed and we murder moveskills and take down our aoe... ok some of that might slightly help but if you are still instantly killing everything you engage because power creep has just become ridiculous then having rly slow movespeed and moveskills to get you to the next pack is just making the game feel bad without really fixing the issue right? If you press a button and the mobs in close enough range to be a threat to you instantly die without being able to fight back because youre playing a game where the mobs life seems like its about right for 20k dps and you have 200k dps despite having extremely average to bad gear then youre never going to have meaningful interaction with living monsters.

I can run around with 0% movespeed, no movement skills playing a 0 aoe toe to toe single target melee build and still not have meaningful interaction with monsters. The game will feel like total shit, I will feel so slow and bored I want to dig my eyeballs out with a fork but I will still just instantly kill everything I come in contact with and I wont rly have to play the fights. I get surrounded by 10 mobs, so my 10 attacks per second multistrike 1 shot every monster I hold the button down for 1 second and now there isnt a single mob around me...


I think GGG is aware and has been for a long time, they just don't seem to know what to do.

Their worst approach at fixing this for me has probably been Perandus, they applied a huge amount of "damage avoidance" so you feel like you're not dealing any damage out of the blue and on top of that added a weird mechanic of endless respawning for at least 10s or something.

Breach seems to feel better, still a huge amount of damage avoidance (I hate this! Tone down my damage instead, please!) but at least no endless respawning.
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