[3.14] Flame Golem 101 - Complete Guide To Golemancy, ✔️All Bosses Down, ✔️Necro, ✔️Elementalist

@mika

Morning

I managed to get a 6-Link Infernal Mantle. (Self linked 300 odd fuses)

Colors are 2*Red, 1*Green and 3*Blue.

I tried using Vorici bench to get 3*Red 1*Green and 2*Blue. (1000/+ Chromes used so far.)

As said lots of chromes used as said don't come right using on Bench 3*Red is a lot of chromes.
When using 3*Red on bench other colors don't match. Think i will leave it at this.


I want to try using the infernal Mantle: Gem setup pls.

Red: Summon Flame Golem
Red: Empower
Green: GMP
Blue: Controlled Destruction
Blue: Spell Echo
Blue: Minion Damage Support

Will this setup be enough or on Power with Skin Of Loyal Simple Robe. Which is better.

I cant use Fire Penetration Support gem anymore not enough red-sockets.

Have you posted a Skill tree for Infernal Mantle.

Tnx in advance, have a great day.

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jgundlach a écrit :

Morning

I managed to get a 6-Link Infernal Mantle. (Self linked 300 odd fuses)

Colors are 2*Red, 1*Green and 3*Blue.

I tried using Vorici bench to get 3*Red 1*Green and 2*Blue. (1000/+ Chromes used so far.)

As said lots of chromes used as said don't come right using on Bench 3*Red is a lot of chromes.
When using 3*Red on bench other colors don't match. Think i will leave it at this.

Just in case you really wanted to try, I recommend using a calculator to determine the best method to colour your sockets. Like this one:
https://siveran.github.io/calc.html

For your case, I input these values:
Total Sockets: 6
Requirements: 0 str, 0 dex, 187 int
Desired Colors: 3 R, 1 G, 2B

The calculator will then calculate the cost of using each method (Chromatics or each crafting type in a Bench). Based on those values entered, the best method would be to use Vorici 1R, which is using the "At Least One Red Socket" option in Vorici's Bench.

It only has a 0.81% chance to get your desired colours, but you only spend 4 Chromatics each try, and should cost you ~500 Chromatics on average, more if you're unlucky. The method you used ("At Least Three Red Sockets") has a much higher chance of success, at 15.78% chance, but costs a whopping 120 Chromatics per try (the highest of all the options). So even though it has a 15% success chance, you end up spending more Chromatics (roughly 760 Chromatics on average) than using the 1R method.

Of course, this is all still chance based, but it's always a good idea to check before trying. I'm not sure if you still wish to continue colouring (if this is already a substantial portion of your overall currency wealth, I don't recommend it), but if you do, and for future colouring, I highly recommend using the calculator first.

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Redvex a écrit :

What About Drop Victario Charity and go To Esh visage for more safe?

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as far as i can tell from the guide, the golems dont really need extra safety, as they are extremly tanky with alot of %-ual liferegen. victarios is mainly to increase the clearspeed with the shared power and frenzy charges.

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What i mean is our safety, With esh while not on low mana and low life we are immune to chaos dmg.

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I assume that means you'll not be using Necromantic Aegis.

I've tried this out, and I personally prefer not to use it for a few reasons:
1. We already have enough Chaos Resistance
2. I would need extra Minion Elemental Resistance Jewels (or just Fire/Cold)
3. Taking any Chaos damage will actually prevent ES from regenerating; I prefer taking Chaos damage with my 2000 Life instead. This also allows me to easily tell I'm taking Chaos damage if my Life dips while I still have ES, where I'll pop my flasks and run.

Hello :)

Chaos damage at endgame is not really a big issue. Chaos resistance is very high from other gear and passives while bosses don't do very high chaos damage. With Esh Visage you would have to use same mana reservation reduction nodes as with Infernal Mantle which would waste lots of points for minimal benefit.

Also without Necro Aegis you lose tons of damage and minion survivability. When minions die, you die very soon after so keeping minions alive is same as adding more defenses.

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Thanks for the reply I'll will invest for a lv21 golem then and focus on getting a better crystal belt afterwards thanks for thee advice. :)

Edit: Also I'll check out the vids on shaper kite :D

Edit 2: Yeah I just figure out how good Ele weakness gem is and will be swapping it out with flammability soon after i leveled it to 20.

Hey :)

Btw other nice curse is Projectile Weakness. it adds lots of damage to orbs and 25% global knockback with works nicely with Temp Chains keeping enemies farther away. It's nice balance as second curse between :

Offense : Ele Weak
Offense/Defense : Proj Weak
Defense : Enfeeble

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I give a try to SOTL but mine is 3R1g2B wich means drop controlled destruction for fire penetration. The ring si true that have not life but are the only with %inc ES legacy

The final result is 7396 (i moved to ES boot) Es and 1900+ life......i loose around 700es and gain 300 life.
I do more dmg but i get one shotted by minotaur and minotaur is hard to get down

Another thing.....i've two pair of boots

So.....loose around 34 mov speed or have 300 es more?

Hi :)

3r1g2b and 2r1g3b SotLs have very similar damage. With EE up Cont Dest deals more damage to enemies with low fire es, while Fire Pene deals more against enemies with very high fire res like Bosses or enemies when EE is not up.

Why not use RainbowStrides for boots? They have pretty much every stat you need expect DEX and STR. Remaining Attributes can be taken from tree, rolled on rings, bough in rare jewels, etc.

ES gear is pretty cheap atm, so you can look for gloves with 100+ ES and chance to craft HP if not already have it. You basically want HP in every rare gear with Presence of Chayula.

You are still missing "Nullification" from tree and with levels you will get more EHP per level which helps reaching 10k with item upgrades.

Hope this helps!

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If your AG is dying, but you want to use him just use Cwc - Scorching Ray, or Storm Burst, with Bone Offering to keep him safe. (This also makes him block more so more healing all around.) With this you just put your AG in your shield, so AG - Empower - Minion life. Since you're casting your offering you don't need the cwdt offering in your shield.

My only issue atm with Cwc is you can get some down time on your offering. It feels "unlucky" sometimes, and doesn't pop the offering as fast as I'd like, so I Self cast Desecrate, and Bone offering a lot.

Before a boss I spam Desecrate all over the ground, then I just pop them as the offerings wear off.

Imho Selfcast is the best option for Guardians, and above. Even if you're self casting Flesh offering. It makes sure you have 100% up time, and you can move more freely.

Cwc is great still, but I feel like it's part of the "lazy play style," and sometimes you need to be a bit more active for clean kills. I'd leave Cwc in T:15, and below personally.


PS - My gear is on WonderfulGS (A Scion) atm, because we've been doing some testing, so the links are a bit off. I don't recommend following that build as it's too squishy all around atm, and requires more testing.

-Wonderfu

Hello :)

Wonderfuls setup is great for faster and more active playstyle. I highly recommend trying it out for any player who wants more clear / movement-speed from the build in general mapping or end-game bosses. Please notice that Wonderful is expert level at kiting boss attacks, so dropping defenses needs to be countered with high level understanding of boss mechanics.

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Any suggestion on shaper(profile is open)? All portals are gone. This is because low golem res and damage?
Can't sustain zana on incoming phase(

Hi :)

From gears point of view you are about good to do Shaper. EHP (HP + ES) could be higher, but if you are good at kiting boss attacks the EHP doesnt matter much after 7-8k.

Try to get better ammy for boss if you have only Biscos atm. It gives you no EHP and is for general mapping and farming.

Rare jewels give almost enough resistances for minion, but 2x of them are missing "minion damage" line which lowers your damage a lot.

Now the problem is that Golems have low regen and they cant heal faster than Shaper deals them damage. With more levels and 3x more Harmonies Golems get enough regen to tank Shaper even when you are dead. Also make sure you are using KaltenSoul shield to double nerf Shaper damage to minions.

I would level few levels higher, maybe drop the 2x life nodes with chaos res and take most left jewel socket and up-left ones for 6x points. Change also 3rd rare jewel which is not giving minions resistance to harmony, so Golems end with 6% more regen than now.

Hope this helps and gl on next try ;)

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It is funny that I just vaaled a +1 rainbowstride since there's none in harbinger :)

Hey and gz on great vaal! :D

Now your AG can tank Shaper and most endgame bosses with ease.

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@mika

Morning

I managed to get a 6-Link Infernal Mantle. (Self linked 300 odd fuses)

Colors are 2*Red, 1*Green and 3*Blue.

I tried using Vorici bench to get 3*Red 1*Green and 2*Blue. (1000/+ Chromes used so far.)

As said lots of chromes used as said don't come right using on Bench 3*Red is a lot of chromes.
When using 3*Red on bench other colors don't match. Think i will leave it at this.


I want to try using the infernal Mantle: Gem setup pls.

Red: Summon Flame Golem
Red: Empower
Green: GMP
Blue: Controlled Destruction
Blue: Spell Echo
Blue: Minion Damage Support

Will this setup be enough or on Power with Skin Of Loyal Simple Robe. Which is better.

I cant use Fire Penetration Support gem anymore not enough red-sockets.

Have you posted a Skill tree for Infernal Mantle.

Tnx in advance, have a great day.

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Just in case you really wanted to try, I recommend using a calculator to determine the best method to colour your sockets. Like this one:
https://siveran.github.io/calc.html

For your case, I input these values:
Total Sockets: 6
Requirements: 0 str, 0 dex, 187 int
Desired Colors: 3 R, 1 G, 2B

The calculator will then calculate the cost of using each method (Chromatics or each crafting type in a Bench). Based on those values entered, the best method would be to use Vorici 1R, which is using the "At Least One Red Socket" option in Vorici's Bench.

It only has a 0.81% chance to get your desired colours, but you only spend 4 Chromatics each try, and should cost you ~500 Chromatics on average, more if you're unlucky. The method you used ("At Least Three Red Sockets") has a much higher chance of success, at 15.78% chance, but costs a whopping 120 Chromatics per try (the highest of all the options). So even though it has a 15% success chance, you end up spending more Chromatics (roughly 760 Chromatics on average) than using the 1R method.

Of course, this is all still chance based, but it's always a good idea to check before trying. I'm not sure if you still wish to continue colouring (if this is already a substantial portion of your overall currency wealth, I don't recommend it), but if you do, and for future colouring, I highly recommend using the calculator first.

Hey and gz on low fus linking! :)

I assume you are trying Infernal Mantle in league? The new roll of Infernal Mantle has about same ES as SotL while having increased damage taken line. I would not recommend using non-legacy Infernal Mantle over Sotl.

3 red are also pretty horrible to craft on Infernal Mantle, to corrupt +1 one pretty much impossible. For Mantle I recommend using the 2r1g3b as they in general provide more damage and are very cheap to craft.

If you want to try 3 red, "thsscapii"s tool looks excellent. The 1R seems to be most efficient method, ofc it's down to luck.

Tree for Infernal Mantle is in own section of build :

"Final Skill Tree / Special Skill Trees / Bandits / Ascendancy / Pantheon / Path Of Building -> Special Skill Trees -> Infernal Mantle."

https://tinyurl.com/y9arhapd

Great write up!

Question... I was only able to get my hands on a 3B 2G 1R Skin of the Loyal Robe. What are my options for the 2nd Green socket?

Thanks!

culling strike

lmp gmp

slower projectiles

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Great write up!

Question... I was only able to get my hands on a 3B 2G 1R Skin of the Loyal Robe. What are my options for the 2nd Green socket?

Thanks!

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culling strike

lmp gmp

slower projectiles

Hello and thanks for support! ^^

Currently you can use :
Golem -> GMP -> Slow Proj -> Minion damage -> Echo -> Cont Dest

for general mapping and if you want to optimize damage for boss fight swap GMP :

Golem -> Culling Strike -> Slow Proj -> Minion damage -> Echo -> Cont Dest

Loss of Empower hurts Golems damage and survival a lot. You can find 2r2g2b Skin of the Loyals for about 20-30c, which lets you use empower 3. This adds 4 level to Golems in Sotl and makes them very tanky.

I am level 91, and i can't kill Shaper.
I have 2k life, 6.7k energy shield.
Got 1 anima stone, 1 primordial might, 1 primordial eminence, 1 jewel rare with minion damage and all resist, 6 primordial harmony.
Skin of the loyal, and empower level 3. All gems level 19 : summon golem, spell echo, gmp, minion damage, fire penetration.

Did you guys killed it at level 91?

hmm does the second mod work for golems flameballs?

"Minions deal 16% increased Damage
12% increased Area Damage"
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Hoeder a écrit :

I am level 91, and i can't kill Shaper.
I have 2k life, 6.7k energy shield.
Got 1 anima stone, 1 primordial might, 1 primordial eminence, 1 jewel rare with minion damage and all resist, 6 primordial harmony.
Skin of the loyal, and empower level 3. All gems level 19 : summon golem, spell echo, gmp, minion damage, fire penetration.

Did you guys killed it at level 91?

hmm your gems could be at least 20/20. im 91 myself and havent even dropped the maps for any guardian except chimera.

I just killed the first shaper ever with this build at level 80 :) I died twice due to the lag when he slammed. Shaper killed my AG because he was standing in shaper's beam. I think this won't be an issue if I self-cast convocation. Also, I did all guardians and the only one that killed me was minotaur.
Geat build anyway, I really enjoy it.

Here's my profile: https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/unname26/characters

Hi, I am quite new to the game.. and I have been using this build but tweaking it to my liking and I have one question, since the recent update and spectres have been somewhat buffed is it still better to use animate guardian? I think im gonna try to use spectres in its place but wanted insight from others.

I am not an experienced player by far and barely know the pool of skills and abilities and which go well with others so it would be fantastic to hear someone's opinion.

Thanks.