Anyone helping Alira? (normal)
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Theorycrafting, next round.
What are the reasons, or rather, are there any reasons to help Alira? I went through it, and even with a Hybrid Hierophant where the Mana provides about as many EHP as the Life, I think I prefer the Life. In what cases does one pick the Mana? Novelty Factor? Builds that are insanely strapped for Mana(so quite the opposite of Hierophant)? Zaanus: Global chat: Mechanics for A work one way, B for another, C for a third but also with A, B uses C but not A, and D uses A&B but not C ___ Isn't a "no" better than an ignore? Dernier bump le 2 juin 2016 à 06:50:33
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60 mana only seem good in short duration races, it can be good if u go ci/lowlife, but usually resist is better, maybe give it mana regen instead of 60 mana would make it a better pick.
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Heirophant might like this bonus a lot.
Face it, all of your suggestions are worse than this idea:
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/657756 |
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I you know that you WILL use skyforth on that build? Or maybe with cloak of defiance/mind over matter and the aylardex? But even then I'm not sure if maybe the passive point would be better...
I make dumb builds, therefore I am.
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Well, thing is, I was planning out a Hierophant with MoM and was thinking about Aylardex, and I'd reach 4k mana, sure, but that's also 1000 ES, and I still prefered the life over mana given that in the end it gave about an equal amount of hard defense and the life is valueable against chaos.
If I picked the mana, might as well go CI, though according to my calculations I'd only get to around 8k ES then. heh, "only". But I'm sure a lot of people will consider that insufficient. I'd never be able to afford a Skyforth. Zaanus: Global chat: Mechanics for A work one way, B for another, C for a third but also with A, B uses C but not A, and D uses A&B but not C ___ Isn't a "no" better than an ignore? Dernière édition par UnDeaD_CyBorG#7056, le 1 juin 2016 à 16:36:16
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" the main problem isnt that mana is bad (on the contrary a hierophant likes this bonus) its simply what the alternative is. and alternative (flat hp) is too good and much better even for a mana-centric build; they need either to raise mana amount alira gives or cut down oaks hp bonus |
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I think Oak would still be fine with 35, and it'd be a lot harder to decide in those cases.
Though While I'm musing: I guess I could forego the Life, and a bit of Mana on tree, and go CI. But I feel like I'd just be wasting the mana soak then and should probably just look at Guardian. Where I guess picking Alira is actually attractive, as you would spread the ES based on your mana over minions. Zaanus:
Global chat: Mechanics for A work one way, B for another, C for a third but also with A, B uses C but not A, and D uses A&B but not C ___ Isn't a "no" better than an ignore? |
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Better idea: why not have alira give you 30 ES permanently instead?
Or even better, every bandit gives the respective stat PLUS the defensive stat for it: Oak gives 40 life and 50 armor Alira gives 60 mana and 30 ES Kraityn gives the 10% all res and 70? 80? evasion. I make dumb builds, therefore I am. Dernière édition par FCK42#0688, le 1 juin 2016 à 16:44:48
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Well, then I guess no one would pick the skillpoint.
Which is already rarely taken. Besides, GGG seems to have a policy of not using extra lines. I could totally see a flat 90 Armour/30 ES/75 EV option, though; I'd just prefer what we got now. ... Damn, now I'm starting the theorycraft all over again. Was planning to utilize those new Jewels for extra mana, but the more I think about it, I might get more defense by just picking the defense nodes. :P Zaanus: Global chat: Mechanics for A work one way, B for another, C for a third but also with A, B uses C but not A, and D uses A&B but not C ___ Isn't a "no" better than an ignore? Dernière édition par UnDeaD_CyBorG#7056, le 1 juin 2016 à 17:05:39
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I take Alira on every MOM build I make. As long as you're taking a lot of increased % max mana, her mana ends up being much more efficient than Oak's life. If you're leaving up enough mana with MOM that you can actually cover 30-40% of big hits, Alira's completely worth it. She's not worth taking if you're using any auras besides Clarity or if you skimp on the increased mana, though.
The tankiest builds I've ever made took the 60 mana from Alira. |
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