Please scale spectres up as well as down (Or another alternative for summoner QoL)

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joachimbond a écrit :

Or maybe we could have a separate gem for those, such as "Raise Avatar"

I really don't need more power in my spectres than what the ascendancy class has provided. I need to be able to find them when I fucking log on.

I do agree with that, if I had to choose between brand new OP spectres and permanent old ones I'd take the old ones and never look back. My point was devs could use them as an excuse to keep the spectre hunt alive.

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raics a écrit :

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joachimbond a écrit :

Or maybe we could have a separate gem for those, such as "Raise Avatar"

I really don't need more power in my spectres than what the ascendancy class has provided. I need to be able to find them when I fucking log on.

I do agree with that, if I had to choose between brand new OP spectres and permanent old ones I'd take the old ones and never look back. My point was devs could use them as an excuse to keep the spectre hunt alive.

Excuse me???

"The spectre hunt"?

Don't tell me this bullshit mechanic of stripping us of our damage dealing potential every time we log out is intentional and something they want to keep alive?

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joachimbond a écrit :

What other class has to contend with something like that?

Animate weapons :D
But AW summoners can at least buy some shit at vendor for basically free and have about 1.5-2 minutes of working skill.

My theory as to why they don't want upscaled spectres and having to hunt for them... is honestly just them too attached to Diablo 2 nostalgia... Nobody liked that part.

Make Specters great again!

I really want to play Specters. But the next time I have to fuck around with Desecrate, and look for those I want from the ground (lets ignore the fact they cannot be played at Tier 10+ maps, because they are too weak... :/), I'll fucking snap. :V

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joachimbond a écrit :

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raics a écrit :

I do agree with that, if I had to choose between brand new OP spectres and permanent old ones I'd take the old ones and never look back. My point was devs could use them as an excuse to keep the spectre hunt alive.

Excuse me???

"The spectre hunt"?

Don't tell me this bullshit mechanic of stripping us of our damage dealing potential every time we log out is intentional and something they want to keep alive?

Yes, you heard well - "the spectre hunt". I think one of the devs commented on permanent spectres in an interview, and it was something in the vein of 'it's a bit tricky, but if we implemented permanent spectres we'd have to reduce their power level, it's intended that you look for new ones every time'.

Now, it was a long time ago so don't quote me on that, and who knows, maybe neither is a problem anymore, the engine got some of its kinks worked out and the recent power creep left the classic summoner in dust.

The problem is if you want to make Spectres a thing you have to bring around alot of support gems or you have a sub-optimized minion link setup for a Spectre.

If this were true there would be a spectre chest with white gems or the idea of diffrent spectres, is stupid, since each spectre needs its own gems.

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Zalhan2 a écrit :

If this were true there would be a spectre chest with white gems or the idea of diffrent spectres, is stupid, since each spectre needs its own gems.

Indeed.

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JeremiahLoh a écrit :

My theory as to why they don't want upscaled spectres and having to hunt for them... is honestly just them too attached to Diablo 2 nostalgia... Nobody liked that part.

Difference is who's the main damage dealer.

D2 Necro has skelly warriors. Revives are not the main damage dealer, and their use is even limited to some boss fight (like using the big belly demon for uber). The skellies can be raised by corpses of a monster from Blood Moor normal and still kick ass. They are like zombies on steroid in POE. Meanwhile, classic summoner more than often relies on tedious spectres for damage. If zombies in POE hit as hard, behave as smart as D2 skellies to the point spectres becomes default utility 4L (evangelist or the frenzy charge beast), we wouldn't have to complain much.