Trendspotting: POE Playerbase almost halved on Steam alone since the release of Awakening

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TheWretch a écrit :

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That's some low quality infographic
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1365869 = much better and it's related to the topic

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TheWretch a écrit :

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if we compare the number of sales with the average of players, the retention is way worse than PoE. However we are comparing a month to a year so it doesnt matter anyway, its an unfair comparison.

Blizzard removed the ability for players to see how many people are using B.net with the game in the first 2 weeks or so when the playerbase was declining fast due to disappointment and horrible servers. It is never possible to see the real numbers. (ofc it fluctuated up and down afterwards for inumerous reasons)

But if we wanna play the same game as OP and use Steam, then Ill compare Twitch streams during beginning of this season, I remember going to twitch in the first days and seeing PoE with 5k and RoS with some 400s watchers.
by this, -and some baseless claim of a $5bucks$ Tauren fanboy RoS Player in a previous thread that they were at 10 million-, I extrapolate the number of PoE players were at 55 million average (lowest I can go after many discounts).
WoW, that's some great success GGG :-)

So far, the only trend I've seen regarding steam charts is that every time someone posts a thread like this, they get a huge number of people replying with all the reasons why those numbers are almost completely irrelevant. Yet inevitably, at least a few more people will make yet another thread about it partway through each season.

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Disrupted a écrit :

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if we compare the number of sales with the average of players, the retention is way worse than PoE. However we are comparing a month to a year so it doesnt matter anyway, its an unfair comparison.

Blizzard removed the ability for players to see how many people are using B.net with the game in the first 2 weeks or so when the playerbase was declining fast due to disappointment and horrible servers. It is never possible to see the real numbers. (ofc it fluctuated up and down afterwards for inumerous reasons)

But if we wanna play the same game as OP and use Steam, then Ill compare Twitch streams during beginning of this season, I remember going to twitch in the first days and seeing PoE with 5k and RoS with some 400s watchers.
by this, -and some baseless claim of a $5bucks$ Tauren fanboy RoS Player in a previous thread that they were at 10 million-, I extrapolate the number of PoE players were at 55 million average (lowest I can go after many discounts).
WoW, that's some great success GGG :-)

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when will these threads end?

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Yeah, I know... NEVER. this expansion is even holding up pretty well... what is even the purpose here

I think using twitch views is even worse than using steamcharts to gage actual player numbers.

hence the many discounts :^)

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hence the many discounts :^)

Both games are alive and doing well years after release, that's all I care about. Its a great time to be into ARPGs.

true, true, I think there's a place for D3 as well, if offers a different experience. we have many new released ones and upcoming ARPGs that offer their own thing.
This is cool, healthy competition works pretty well for customers.

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CharanJaydemyr a écrit :

...And if this were a better world, we'd be able to end the thread on that amicable note.

Maybe in a secret level

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Well, I have been a long time player and I am simply not finding any interest in the new patch. I am casual, sometimes (when I could) would play extensively. As a comparison, in the years I have played, my highest lvl character was 77.

I find little enjoyment in the game since the patch. The skill gems provided by vendor eliminated a big part of grinding and trading which could ultimately give you a boost in the game otherwise some needed currencies to trade. Now it's just a matter of cookie cutter.

Grinding for divination cards ain't my thing, nor are the jewels actually. I find these should have been high level items allowing end game tuning. They are just worthless junk that now flood the market for no reason whatsoever.

I find no thrill anymore in the game. I think the upgrades did provide stuff for the hard core fan but definitely are a big deterrent for new or casual players.

The game just isn't fun anymore. And on top of that, you start us fresh with that annoying no one cares tempest thing. I play hardcore only, like a good challenge and so far, the most interesting areas I found are the dry lake and the arenas. They are neat, the rest is well underwhelming.

Gave myself time off... several times, tried starting a new toon again. Find myself in the same situation : "Why do I bother with this game..." Sad because I was high on theorycrafting and spent countless hours figuring out appropriate trees and such. Played over and over trying all sorts of crazy builds and doing my best with the loots I got.

I guess I'm just done, and I realize I am not the only one.

The Map Wall I hit at ~73 and the struggle to get over it took me from ~70 to like 87 running 72/73 alched maps and Chisseling the 74s rolling packsize and as much stuff as possible.

If I hadn´t managed to climb over it, yes even reach a single 82 Map at some point - I think I had stopped playing this league aswell taking into consideration that my Chaos are worth nothing compared to
other leagues and I have yet to find an EX with 1x90 1x88 1x82 and 1x~76 Char. I mean I was hoping to finally be able to play Windripper/Mjolnir/Volt because their price dropped by like 30 EX, but here I am not even able to afford a Rats Nest or Malis - And yes to some extend it is also due to me spending currency on my Maps (rolling) but you need to know that I enjoy doing Higher-Maps with crazy mods and can´t stand the Idea of selling every 76+ Map just to buy some Items to start another build.

I can understand that 78+ Maps are Endgame content and should not drop frequently but the fact that some people are forced to buy maps to progress even to 75/76s Maps is ridicoulus, as I myself would never spend currency on buying Maps, because it would ruin my Idea of progression.

E.G Recently I saw some 95 dude do 72+ Map Runs for free and when I asked him why he was running such low maps he told me that he had dropped down from his whole Maps, down from 80s. This shouldn´t be possible at all. You should be able to sustain atleast 75 Maps in my opinion.



Just my 2 Cents on possible dropoff.

MfG Transom - Gn8