Is a new standard league viable?

As the title says, how would people like it if the current standard league was made legacy and a new standard was created?

The way I see it, the only thing this game has going for it now are the challenge leagues and although I love the challenge leagues I have little to no desire to play the permanent leagues because of the state they are. This is the same with the group of people I play with and I suspect it's the same with a lot of other players.

I understand some players don't care about balance and just want to play a game, but to many arpg players they want to play on equal footing, min-maxing etc which is impossible to do on standard league with the monopolized economy.

A new standard league could focus on being balanced by removing all the crap that many people are constantly complaining about (mirrors, eternals, legacies etc) which are all poor game design. The players who have obtained all these items will still have them available on a legacy league.

What are some other opinions on this?

No... Just no.

Legacies will always be around. GGG will never retro-actively change an item to the new stats. They will continually buff/nerf items in the future, and the older versions will become "collector's edition" items just like GGG intended. If you create a fresh Standard league, it will simply turn into the exact state that the current Standard league is in. You won't solve a single thing; not to mention the negative side-effect of playerbase fragmentation.

If you're jealous of players with legacy items, that's what the temporary leagues are for.

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rrtson a écrit :

No... Just no.

Legacies will always be around. GGG will never retro-actively change an item to the new stats. They will continually buff/nerf items in the future, and the older versions will become "collector's edition" items just like GGG intended. If you create a fresh Standard league, it will simply turn into the exact state that the current Standard league is in. You won't solve a single thing; not to mention the negative side-effect of playerbase fragmentation.

If you're jealous of players with legacy items, that's what the temporary leagues are for.

Well, the new league would take what the current league did wrong and correct it. That was the entire point, so I don't see how it would become exactly the same. If it did, it would take far longer than a year. At the rate PoE is going I honestly don't think it will survive the initial 10 year prediction (especially if bad game design is ignored). Every so often there could possibly be another merge to legacy standard (if major game changes dictate the need for it).

I believe it would be a healthier route for the game rather than just ignoring the problem. Meh, people don't like change.

no


you dont like playing perm leagues, dont play perm leagues, if you want to play perm, go play standard. They are not going to make a second softcore perm league for you because you want to play perm but dont want the downsides of people already having more than you. This is what temp leagues are for, go play a temp league or accept that a perm league is perm and all that comes with that.

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guvnor a écrit :

Well, the new league would take what the current league did wrong and correct it.

theres nothing wrong with softcore, the only thing wrong is your perceptions of it.

lol op jelly of legacy items

This is how normal games are... they don't wipe every game every xxx days or whatever they are perm people can build and build and build

Temp leagues are like games in beta after xxx time they get wiped and then a new beta comes along

So imagine they would do this. How long until we have the same situation again?

Edit: New standard league begins in 2 weeks by the way. No leagcies and hardly any eternals & mirrors.. ;)

There's a reason not many people play this game in between leagues. Not about legacies, that was just an example. It's about balance.

FYI for anyone who can't read, I didn't suggest a wipe.

If you quit worrying about other people and just play the game for fun, you'll be much happier with it. This isn't a MMORPG where you strive to be "maxed out". No one cares if you are.

If you don't like that legacy items make the game too easy, don't use them. If it bothers you that people are paying 500+ exalts for items, don't be bothered by it. There's no intrinsic value to these orbs. When people quit playing PoE, they don't get to cash them out.