Elemental Equilibrium

so when i just go for as much elemental damage as possible with my sword fighter
so i always try to hit with fire cold and lightning at the same time
this skill will definitely increase my damage right? cus +25 -50 = -25 :D <- math genius :D
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Elemental_Equilibrium

i hope this helps you with your math
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oh thank you

shit my math failed xD
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If you hit with Cold and lightning at the same time, then your hit deal cold and lightning damage, and thus the enemy gets +25% resistance to both those types. Your hit did not deal fire damage, so they get -50% resistances. That will not be a damage increase if each hit is the same.
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Dernière édition par syphers#0466, le 12 sept. 2013 à 19:44:24
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Mark_GGG a écrit :
If you hit with Cold and lightning at the same time, then your hit deal cold and lightning damage, and thus the enemy gets +25% resistance to both those types. Your hit did not deal fire damage, so they get -50% resistances. That will not be a damage increase if each hit is the same.


O.o

I thought that multi-elemental did nothing. Wow, I totally got that skill wrong!
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yet another EE question, Mark

Multi-charge Discharge

I use Endurance Cry discharge + EE
normally i cause EE with my:

it looks like: cold snap -> shock nova (on already -50% lightning) -> discharge (on -50% fire + possibly shock stacks)

but there a spice:


so from time to time i have 6/3/3 charges - this in theory is much more powerful than 6/0/0 but i noticed that my damage when maxed is very inconsistent

i have a question:

in numerous GGG posts there is a phrase 'nothing in POE happens simultaneously' so how does Discharge behaves in context of EE? does multi-charge discharge can trigger EE for itself? is the order of elements random or fixed? how in general EE works? is there any kind of delay or does it work from the next engine frame? monster tooltips update with delay - but this means only that they update with delay - nothing more
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sidtherat a écrit :

in numerous GGG posts there is a phrase 'nothing in POE happens simultaneously' so how does Discharge behaves in context of EE? does multi-charge discharge can trigger EE for itself? is the order of elements random or fixed? how in general EE works? is there any kind of delay or does it work from the next engine frame? monster tooltips update with delay - but this means only that they update with delay - nothing more


My guess - depends on what you define as "simultaneous." Judging from Mark's post above, "simultaneous" elemental damage really is possible. In other words, Discharge deals one hit to one monster in one "simultaneous" moment, and this hit contains 6 charges of fire damage, 3 charges of ice and 3 charges of lightning. The fire and ice damage will be dealt at -50% resistance, while the lightning damage is dealt at +25% resistance. After the discharge, the monster has 25% resistance to all three elements.

If you don't trust my analysis, you can ask, and Mark can confirm or deny it.
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ill ask Mark

my initial theory was very similar to yours but i did some tests with lvl1 discharge and monster tooltips show that only 2 elements are 'vulnerable' to, not 3. it really needs some clarification

i play with EE a lot - cold snap/shock nova/fireball/discharge and in most cases using 3rd element causes vulnerability to other 2, i dont remember seeing monsters being resistant to all 3 (albeit it might be because dmg is over the top and stuff dies).

i hope that one day these dev answers will be available in-game in some kind of FAQ/mechanics help section. game as complex as this one deserves such thing
the most important part of elemental equilibrium is alternating elemental damages as fast as possible. i have spork and -150% resist fire traps to trigger this. each fire dot tik triggers -50 cold lightning and spark triggers -50% fire cold. it acually works pretty dam good with spark fire traps.
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