Cruel Merveil Unique Farming Log

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RulerofAsgard a écrit :

Reason I farm Cruel Merveil:...Cruel Merveil has a very good pool of unique items that can drop...

How do you know what item pool it has? Is there a list of items per boss? I thought any unique can drop, provided the area is high enough for the base item??

I sometimes farm Cruel Brutus for lower level uniques. Brutus is much faster to kill / get at and less dangerous. (you also dont need any resist -> more space for MF)

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morbo a écrit :

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RulerofAsgard a écrit :

Reason I farm Cruel Merveil:...Cruel Merveil has a very good pool of unique items that can drop...

How do you know what item pool it has? Is there a list of items per boss? I thought any unique can drop, provided the area is high enough for the base item??

I sometimes farm Cruel Brutus for lower level uniques. Brutus is much faster to kill / get at and less dangerous. (you also dont need any resist -> more space for MF)

She is level 42 in Cruel, so she can drop any unique item the base level of which is 42 or lower, which is quite a few of them. When I'm higher level and better equipped, of course I'll move up to a higher level zone to increase the pool of items. Merciless Merveil is my next target for that, which I'll probably be able to comfortably do at level ~65 or so.

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Full_Unique_Index

I simply refer to this when seeing if something I want can drop.

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RulerofAsgard a écrit :

I'm mostly interested in the number of uniques/run with xx/yy IIR/IIQ.

Once I compile a lot of runs on my own (Probably about ~250 runs initially) I'll most likely make a simple list, such as:

With aaa/bbb IIR/IIQ:
Total runs: xxx
Total uniques: yy

Uniques per run: yy/xxx

Total chaos-equivalent value of orbs from vendoring items/random drops: zzz

Total chaos-equivalent per run: zzz/xxx

I don't think you can make useful sense of that data, only because the drop rate on uniques varies amongst uniques. So, while you might get a Quill Rain every 10 runs, you aren't likely to get a Andvarius more than once every 1000.

You will have to split unqiues into common and rare unique drops.

Rather than chaos, because the value of it varies on trade rates. log how many alt shards and alc shards per run. This would also require that you sell all of them, or at least look at what the vender offers rather than use any for a recipe or keep any for usefulness. You will have to check what the vender would give you in alt shards first.

Nice!-) I do the same with Merveil in Normal at Level 35 in hope to get an Dream Fragments or Andvarius. My current IIR is 240 (still using Wondertraps and Low Life) and my IIQ stays at 64.
If intrested i can post my Gear. Since i realized in first Hour drops the most Uniqs i do no more as that and come back Later then. Sometimes it drops Nothing and sometimes i get 2 Uniqs in the same Run. Anyway, i got a few Searing Touch, Sadimas and Goldrim with that. An Andvarius or Dream Fragment did not dropped yet. I am also in Onslaught and i think i dont wanna level more with this Char because of Farming with it.

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LeandroHazard a écrit :

Nice!-) I do the same with Merveil in Normal at Level 35 in hope to get an Dream Fragments or Andvarius. My current IIR is 240 (still using Wondertraps and Low Life) and my IIQ stays at 64.
If intrested i can post my Gear. Since i realized in first Hour drops the most Uniqs i do no more as that and come back Later then. Sometimes it drops Nothing and sometimes i get 2 Uniqs in the same Run. Anyway, i got a few Searing Touch, Sadimas and Goldrim with that. An Andvarius or Dream Fragment did not dropped yet. I am also in Onslaught and i think i dont wanna level more with this Char because of Farming with it.

I have noticed that when I farm a boss for several hours straight, the number of rares tends to drop off a bit (from a full inventory to about half an inventory). I tested it out, and 10 runs seems to be about perfect for when the loot starts to taper off (it takes me roughly 45-60 minutes for 10 runs, depending on how awful of layouts I get). So when I do full days of running, I normally switch off between two bosses, so I'll run Merveil for 10 runs, then run Piety for 10 runs, etc.

nice thread , i have enjoyed mfing a lot since i got a few good pieces with my sporker , i didnt go for the andvarius thing cuz i wanted to be able to have MF and good defenses so i can help a lot on teams too .When mapping the results are soo terribly good with smth like 260 iir and 60 iiq, 2 most noticable reults have been dream frags and bringer of rain.Even tho i prefer farming maps with groups whenever i get to my rubbish pc (where i have to turn quality to 5 to play :P) i farm merveil with smth like 300 iir 70 iiq.

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However merveil runs seem to dissapoint a lot (especially when compared to maps).From my personal notebook logs i have been able to get a higher rate of uniques (higher qulity too ) from fellshrine merci runs ( docks and sarn suck 1) lower clear speed 2) rubbish pc i use when doing solo mf runs and 3) annoying perpetus and lmp dogs).Somehow fellshrine gives me 5 to 6rares in a 2 minutes run , merci merv gives me double for more than double the time.The difference in uniques is even bigger in my case (generally 1 for 3 runs in fellshrine) 1 for 2 runs in merci merv. Fellshrine beats merc merv decisively since its lvl 59 ( items for chaos recipe can drop quite easily there) and meps ofc :P. I loose less quantity in fellshrine too.

Till now ( over 200 runs in each of these zones) i think these hard to reach bosses ( merv vaal piety) arent able to compete with rares which can be easily killed in a few seconds.1 merveil= 5 rares in my cases *remember this is all from my experience ) The number should be much higher.IMO bosses like merv ect ect should have a higher rate of rarity to be equal and even better than simple grinding.

@n00bi

I'll give running Fellshrine 10 times through a go and see how it works out. I farm Merveil in part because I simply like killing her. She has slain several of my characters when I was first starting out, so I feel vindictive pleasure in killing her.

--Run 11-20 update bump; got 3 more uniques (Wanderlust is a repeat for me, other two are new)--

--Update bump for runs 21-30; got Reaper's Pursuit, so my IIR is going to be even higher--

Interesting post, I am doing cruel act 1 with my detonate templar in Anarchy now, may try a few Merveil runs and share my result with you guys.

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Megidolaon a écrit :

Interesting post, I am doing cruel act 1 with my detonate templar in Anarchy now, may try a few Merveil runs and share my result with you guys.

All results are welcome ^.^

On an unrelated note, this is the most IIR/IIQ I've ever had on any character in any league, and I'm having a blast farming. I hope that once I reach level ~60-70, I can get some high ES gear and Wondertraps, so I can try out a 350+ IIR character.

--Updated my gear, defenses, dps, and IIR/IIQ sections with current information--