really, what's the point of chaos anyway ?

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plasticeyes a écrit :

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EomMage a écrit :

what's the point of having anything?

true enough. but up until chaos there's a nice symmetry to how everything works.

oh look - i just answered the question.

it's chaos, its job is to f-up the symmetry.

interesting...

more like to f-up everything that is not hp or ES (with shavrone or ci) stacking.

bypasing is a flawed concept becouse it force people to stack the only defensive mechanism that works, in POE case HP or ES.

i am from the idea that "a" is strong vs "b" but weak vs "c" not "a" ignores "b" but not "c".

this means that all defensive mechanism (hp,ES,armor,eva) should work vs everything but at a reduced effect like:
es: receives more dmg from chaos type but lower from physical
armor/eva: affects elemental dmg just like if it where physical but with a 70% efficiency
affects chaos dmg just like if it where physical but with a 50% efficiency

by reduced efficiency i mean that armor will reduce elemental and chaos dmg like if it where physical but if the char has 10k armor, against chaos it will be considered as 5k armor.

You're misinformed, your order is wrong and this is important.

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so we'll create something called chaos.

then we'll make it really hard to find chaos resists.

then we'll put in a total of 3 chaos resist skill nodes.

then, we'll make chaos puncture energy shield directly.

then we'll put in mobs that throw nothing but chaos

so after you've been destroyed by all that, we'll take 60 f'in percent off your meager chaos resist in merciless. and just to really mess with you, taking all the chaos resist skill nodes won't even get you back to 0 !

Correct order is

First, we'll create something called chaos, which bypasses energy shield and cannot be resisted
Then, we'll add mods that deal raw chaos damage
Then, we'll add uniques that allow you to resist it
Then, we'll totally go back on it and turn it into a standard resist with a 60% penalty, 3 nodes, and difficult to obtain item mods, and a flask.

See ghudda's video on wharf boss with 99% reduce mana EA char.

Warf does 400 chaos dmg, that's it. So stop complaining about chaos dmg and get some chaos resits.

Chaos is there to cause chaos, clearly.

I stopped reading after page 1, however never died to anything that does chaos damage. Hardcore for lyfe yo, and all that other rah rah rah crap.

Seriously though, haven't had an issue with it. Play smart, yo.

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plasticeyes a écrit :

then we'll put in a total of 3 chaos resist skill nodes.

picking out random thing to state that there are 4

Chaos damage is intended as a test of player skill, but implemented rather poorly.

if you happen to desync or lag for half a second near a pack of Undying Alchemists, Poison Archers or Snakes/Vaal Automatons - you'd better pray to whatever god you believe in.
the only things that can save you at that point, are either being CI or having a ton of HP.
the second option is practically impossible after 0.11, without a specific unique.
the first option is too costly for my taste (HP=1).
there is also a third option, but it too requires a specific unique (Shavronne's Wrappings).

and what few Chaos resistance nodes the tree has, are mostly in the Witch section - which is just wrong.

I think that either Chaos damage needs an overhaul, making it resemble elemental damage (just a lot harder to max-out) - or there simply need to be a lot more chaos resistance nodes. in every character's part of the tree.

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EomMage a écrit :

I have a +20% chaos resist 2H sword I'll let you have for 1 chaos

the cause of, and solution to, all your problems

Nobody cares about chaos resist on 2H

lol no so many mobs use chaos,besides u could use flask that increase ressistence on chaos,if they lover dmg of chaos made upon u just like that then CI will lose its value,to abandon entire HP just to get little more ress on chaos is stupid

chaos damage is there to counter brainless trash like low-life builds.

unfortunately shavronne's makes it pointless and most players have trouble with chaos damage anyway unless they have good money.