I feel more people should see this

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BootyTwerk#7842 a écrit :

If chess was actually similar like he says, then 1 player who has higher elo, more time to study, practice gets every chess piece to play, while the less knowledgeable, time restricted, low elo player gets half as many pawns, 1 rook, 1 knight, 1 bishop and no queen and is told to enjoy the game and not complain because you're both playing chess so it's all good.

That's how basketball and hockey work. Do you refuse to lift weights because pro strongmen can lift more than you?

Both PoE's are semi-competitive. Even though it's almost pointless, I can see on ninja that I have the #3 Gemling Legionnaire right now. Knowing that isn't completely pointless, because it convinced me to start a new character, since I'm not willing (maybe not able, I'll never know) to do the work required to get it to #2 or #1.

Same deal with pickup basketball or online chess. People enjoy playing at their own level. Most people will be nowhere close to professional skill. They can still have fun.
0.4 SSF: Gemling Minions: https://poe.ninja/poe2/profile/DistributedAutomaton-5739/character/CrystalController

0.3 SSF: Evasion-only melee challenge character: https://poe.ninja/poe2/pob/119e9
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BootyTwerk#7842 a écrit :

If chess was actually similar like he says, then 1 player who has higher elo, more time to study, practice gets every chess piece to play, while the less knowledgeable, time restricted, low elo player gets half as many pawns, 1 rook, 1 knight, 1 bishop and no queen and is told to enjoy the game and not complain because you're both playing chess so it's all good.

That's how basketball and hockey work. Do you refuse to lift weights because pro strongmen can lift more than you?

Both PoE's are semi-competitive. Even though it's almost pointless, I can see on ninja that I have the #3 Gemling Legionnaire right now. Knowing that isn't completely pointless, because it convinced me to start a new character, since I'm not willing (maybe not able, I'll never know) to do the work required to get it to #2 or #1.

Same deal with pickup basketball or online chess. People enjoy playing at their own level. Most people will be nowhere close to professional skill. They can still have fun.


You missed the point entirely and added some terrible examples to demonstrate how badly you missed the point.

To simplify even more...it boils down to which group of people are spending more money to support the game. Only GGG will have that data to decide the ultimate direction.

P.S. Nobody cares what rank you have on poe ninja.
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To simplify even more...it boils down to which group of people are spending more money to support the game. Only GGG will have that data to decide the ultimate direction.


Who would have thought? ...hah)

That's the reason why Chris left and now builds his own arpg he always wanted to build -)
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BootyTwerk#7842 a écrit :
it boils down to which group of people are spending more money to support the game. Only GGG will have that data to decide the ultimate direction.

Some data is public. PoE2 makes more on cosmetics than D4 does, for example, even though D4 makes more money overall because of game sales. (Another way to put it is that PoE2 makes more revenue per user, while D4 has many more users.) Financially, making and keeping games hard has historically been profitable for GGG, and all of PoE2's early access dev costs are already paid for.

And you appear to care about your own rank on PoE ninja, comparing yourself to the power of other players' characters. I'm telling you not to. I'm literally retiring a character that is "powerful" because a weak character is more fun.
0.4 SSF: Gemling Minions: https://poe.ninja/poe2/profile/DistributedAutomaton-5739/character/CrystalController

0.3 SSF: Evasion-only melee challenge character: https://poe.ninja/poe2/pob/119e9
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And you appear to care about your own rank on PoE ninja, comparing yourself to the power of other players' characters. I'm telling you not to. I'm literally retiring a character that is "powerful" because a weak character is more fun.


I've never compared myself to other players power. You are the one bringing up your poe ninja rank and posting it in your signature. Which again nobody cares about.

I only described how different Poe 2 is from chess in relation to that YouTube vid. You see the game from only 1 perspective. I'm able to see it from many perspectives.
I only watch the first 6 minutes, but I'm going to disagree. I never play meta builds, I would prefer to play SSF. However the game is balanced around trade. Without trade, gear acquisition is incredibly tedious. I know because I played SSF until they introduced async trade.

This league I'm still not playing meta. I'm playing Primal Strike, LS pathfinder. Nothing about my setup is competing with meta builds. BUT all elemental builds need Rakiata's Flow to scale.

The very nature of random means some people will have bad streaks. The bad streaks in this game are awful, tedious and not enjoyable.

You can choose to believe me or not.
0.4 SSF: Gemling Minions: https://poe.ninja/poe2/profile/DistributedAutomaton-5739/character/CrystalController

0.3 SSF: Evasion-only melee challenge character: https://poe.ninja/poe2/pob/119e9
Dernière édition par DistributedAutomaton#5739, le 25 janv. 2026 à 20:14:04
If the arguments aren't going to be detailed in text, then naw.

Ain't no one got time for someone trying to farm engagement on youtube.
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stkmro#2432 a écrit :
All the whiners and complainers have created their own misery. The misery is self-inflicted.

POE2 is a league game, meaning that there is a start date and end date, meaning that there is a four month duration and a ladder. With this type of setup, there will definitely be some form of competition between people and people will tend to compare themselves with others.

On one hand, people can look at the game like people jumping on the bandwagon on day 1 of league start and see who are those "winners" that beat all the content and amass sizable amount of wealth versus those "losers" that continuously die on the bosses and cannot accomplish anything at all.

On the other hand, people can chill out and just play the game for what it is, and just accept that if they don't have 12 hours everyday to play, they will not be as good as those streamers and no-lifers who play non-stop all the time.

When the "losers" fail in the game, very oftentimes, they will come on forum to complain to ggg to make the game easier so that they can win the game and pretend to be winners.

I see this happening all the time, and poe2 is getting easier and easier to play. Very soon, the game is going to be worthless and casual like Last Epoch and Diablo 4. When that time comes, that's when we all know poe2 will countdown to its funeral.


Indeed!!!!!!!!!
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darrenrob82#3531 a écrit :
I only watch the first 6 minutes, but I'm going to disagree. I never play meta builds, I would prefer to play SSF. However the game is balanced around trade. Without trade, gear acquisition is incredibly tedious. I know because I played SSF until they introduced async trade.

This league I'm still not playing meta. I'm playing Primal Strike, LS pathfinder. Nothing about my setup is competing with meta builds. BUT all elemental builds need Rakiata's Flow to scale.

The very nature of random means some people will have bad streaks. The bad streaks in this game are awful, tedious and not enjoyable.

You can choose to believe me or not.


The trick to overcoming bad RNG in ssf is to have more than one ssf build on the go at a time. I usually do two.

That way the gear you drop is more likely to be good for at least one of your characters. And if you get bored on one (sick of grinding for boots while having shitty boots) you can go grind for the boots on the other character lol.

Maybe it's not boots, just insert whatever rare rune/lineage support/unique/specific affixes you need - it still works!

But if you have more fun in trade league that's fine too. Just thought I'd share a bad-RNG strategy I've used to some success.

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