I feel more people should see this

https://youtu.be/BHrdRJY6j2o?si=2vuKGkXOQblfHWYE


I think most of the people who have been on this forum for months and months who just constantly bash the game should see this video. Really believe 99% of people who are complaining suffer from what this guy is talking about.

All the whiners and complainers have created their own misery. The misery is self-inflicted.

POE2 is a league game, meaning that there is a start date and end date, meaning that there is a four month duration and a ladder. With this type of setup, there will definitely be some form of competition between people and people will tend to compare themselves with others.

On one hand, people can look at the game like people jumping on the bandwagon on day 1 of league start and see who are those "winners" that beat all the content and amass sizable amount of wealth versus those "losers" that continuously die on the bosses and cannot accomplish anything at all.

On the other hand, people can chill out and just play the game for what it is, and just accept that if they don't have 12 hours everyday to play, they will not be as good as those streamers and no-lifers who play non-stop all the time.

When the "losers" fail in the game, very oftentimes, they will come on forum to complain to ggg to make the game easier so that they can win the game and pretend to be winners.

I see this happening all the time, and poe2 is getting easier and easier to play. Very soon, the game is going to be worthless and casual like Last Epoch and Diablo 4. When that time comes, that's when we all know poe2 will countdown to its funeral.

Worth watching.

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WhiteBoy#6717 a écrit :

Worth watching.

Indeed...

I only made it through 5 mins but I think that's enough. I'll use his comparison to chess and poe 2.

If chess was actually similar like he says, then 1 player who has higher elo, more time to study, practice gets every chess piece to play, while the less knowledgeable, time restricted, low elo player gets half as many pawns, 1 rook, 1 knight, 1 bishop and no queen and is told to enjoy the game and not complain because you're both playing chess so it's all good.


Items that may cost 5-50 exalts at league start eventually cost 5-50 divs later as markets are overrun by price fixers. But loot drops don't get buffed later into season for people who work a ton, and have a family to care for and are struggling in campaign or maps. So they are eternally screwed.

Is their fate to only enjoy standard on release and never a fresh league where all the excitement and majority of players are at?

So enjoy your chess game, while those with less time are forced to play checkers and mocked by everyone at the chess table.

There's nothing wrong with bashing things that are bad

the players that just echo chamber things and don't actually play the game/find parts they do enjoy is a different topic all together lol

feel bad for the players that just hop on bandwagons and complain repeatedly - can't imagine living in that persons head tbh

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on a lighter note, hopefully the devs have the data on the backend to see what players seem to enjoy so that they can boost/buff the less enjoyable activities in the game. hope to see temple nerf in the future as well (but that's expected, they probably made it super OP so people would test it out)


we hope :D

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BootyTwerk#7842 a écrit :

I only made it through 5 mins but I think that's enough. I'll use his comparison to chess and poe 2.

If chess was actually similar like he says, then 1 player who has higher elo, more time to study, practice gets every chess piece to play, while the less knowledgeable, time restricted, low elo player gets half as many pawns, 1 rook, 1 knight, 1 bishop and no queen and is told to enjoy the game and not complain because you're both playing chess so it's all good.


Items that may cost 5-50 exalts at league start eventually cost 5-50 divs later as markets are overrun by price fixers. But loot drops don't get buffed later into season for people who work a ton, and have a family to care for and are struggling in campaign or maps. So they are eternally screwed.

Is their fate to only enjoy standard on release and never a fresh league where all the excitement and majority of players are at?

So enjoy your chess game, while those with less time are forced to play checkers and mocked by everyone at the chess table.

Good point! Good breakdown of the chess-poe2 analogy!
I always play in the new league, every time.
But you are correct when you say that there are people with families, jobs that work 3 shifts and so on, the list goes on and on.

I myself find in the position of wanting to paly more, but never have the chance to play more than 2-3 hours for an entire week.
During weekends I play more, and usually it takes me around 20-25 hours to get to endgame.


Why?
Well for the exact reasons that you layed down, but I'll enumertate them and add a few extra words.
1) The crafting is too RNG , especially how difficult is during the campaign when you don't have enough currency
2) Low currency drop because it's based on RNG, one league you are fine, one league you are struggling because of RNG..
3) Prices have skyrocketd every league, but this league they jump straight into the sun, like Icarus!
4) Not many players are die hard fans of " The Vision" that GGG has, we love the game for the gampley, for the classes, therefore we do not love being punished at every corner (myself included)

5) Time is of the essence, if I play for 2 hours and I do not get a good drop, nor am I lucky or blessed by the RNG God to bless me with a good item when I go to the Vendor and gamble, I tap out, there is no reason for me to struggle.
Why? Well because I do not get the same value for my playtime as I was getting it in D2, POE1 or even in LE.

6) Vendor Items are still rubbish, I think I only got 4 good items from the vendors in almost 1000 hours of playitme in POE2.
I'm talking about buying items from vendors, not gambling.



The campaign is the weakest and most boring campaign I have ever played through in any ARPG games, and here I thought LE had a bad campaign...


But I play POE2 for the way it feels playing with WASD, for how my Monk feels when I finally get my Ice Strike, for how my Amazon feels when I finally get my Lightning Spear.



Overall, I think (for me at least) POE2 is a solic 7.1 / 10 and that's good.
I liek the game, I loved it in 0.1 , I hate it in 0.2 , I loved it back in 0.3 and now in 0.4 I don't love it, I don't hate it, I just played because I had the time and overall I had fun.


But being so punished at every corner, being so strictly linked to RNG, it makes it feel more blend than white chalk.

D2 , LE , POE1 al lthree had/have RNG, but that RNG is better, it feels more rewarding, when an Item drops, it drops!!!!

+1

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ArdeleanuG#2185 a écrit :

Overall, I think (for me at least) POE2 is a solic 7.1 / 10 and that's good.I liek the game, I loved it in 0.1 , I hate it in 0.2 , I loved it back in 0.3 and now in 0.4 I don't love it, I don't hate it, I just played because I had the time and overall I had fun.


But being so punished at every corner, being so strictly linked to RNG, it makes it feel more blend than white chalk.

D2 , LE , POE1 al lthree had/have RNG, but that RNG is better, it feels more rewarding, when an Item drops, it drops!!!!

This is about where I am at. 0.1 was enjoyable because it was new, I think. 0.3 I had the most fun in. Skipped 0.2 after reading patch notes(thankfully) and only lasted 3 days for 0.4 before uninstalling. I'd rate it more like 6/10 but only because it has potential to be so darn good.

The punishment for everything is tiresome. Losing XP is fine, but losing hours of juice should be shifted to hardcore-only. And let's not forget punishments for using some support gems, tree passives, sprint, etc. Everything having downsides sucks.

And drops, for 99.999% of the game, mean nothing unless they are currency. It's all just so tedious.

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FruitLord#0833 a écrit :

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ArdeleanuG#2185 a écrit :

Overall, I think (for me at least) POE2 is a solic 7.1 / 10 and that's good.I liek the game, I loved it in 0.1 , I hate it in 0.2 , I loved it back in 0.3 and now in 0.4 I don't love it, I don't hate it, I just played because I had the time and overall I had fun.


But being so punished at every corner, being so strictly linked to RNG, it makes it feel more blend than white chalk.

D2 , LE , POE1 al lthree had/have RNG, but that RNG is better, it feels more rewarding, when an Item drops, it drops!!!!

This is about where I am at. 0.1 was enjoyable because it was new, I think. 0.3 I had the most fun in. Skipped 0.2 after reading patch notes(thankfully) and only lasted 3 days for 0.4 before uninstalling. I'd rate it more like 6/10 but only because it has potential to be so darn good.

The punishment for everything is tiresome. Losing XP is fine, but losing hours of juice should be shifted to hardcore-only. And let's not forget punishments for using some support gems, tree passives, sprint, etc. Everything having downsides sucks.

And drops, for 99.999% of the game, mean nothing unless they are currency. It's all just so tedious.

You are correct in your assessment, I agree with what yo usaid !