We need a lone wolf mode that allows trading.

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KaosuRyoko#1633 a écrit :

You mean like playing by yourself in a trade league and trading?

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avastcosmicarena#5899 a écrit :

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KaosuRyoko#1633 a écrit :

You mean like playing by yourself in a trade league and trading?

The point is not being forced to play in the same economy with groups who control the market just because you want to engage in trading.

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Cyriac_Darakus#1022 a écrit :

I have seen so many posts on this and I truly do not understand what people are asking for. Currently you can play solo and you can trade.

Or are you asking for a completely seperate league with its own economy? So its basically disabling groups altogether?

This will never happen, GGG are not going to split the playerbase further. We already Have a SSF, Hardcore, and Softcore for Standard and League, this is already 6 different seperate economies that players can use. You need players to have a thriving economy, the less people in each groupset the worse the economy will be.

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Valsacar#0268 a écrit :

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Cyriac_Darakus#1022 a écrit :

I have seen so many posts on this and I truly do not understand what people are asking for. Currently you can play solo and you can trade.

Or are you asking for a completely seperate league with its own economy? So its basically disabling groups altogether?

This will never happen, GGG are not going to split the playerbase further. We already Have a SSF, Hardcore, and Softcore for Standard and League, this is already 6 different seperate economies that players can use. You need players to have a thriving economy, the less people in each groupset the worse the economy will be.

There are many people that lack critical thinking skills, and suffer from extreme FOMO. These people, regardless of how many times it is explained to them, think that group play means more individual wealth and therefore it's unfair. They also don't seem to grasp the concept that tik-tok reels aren't telling the whole story.

So what they want is a trade league with group play disabled. What they don't grasp, or choose to actively ignore, is the fact that group play is often WORSE per person than equivalently high level farming strategies for solo. Group play does drop more loot per map, compared to solo, which is a GOOD thing for solo trade players as it means more shit on the market to buy than if there were no groups.

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Valsacar#0268 a écrit :

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Cyriac_Darakus#1022 a écrit :

I have seen so many posts on this and I truly do not understand what people are asking for. Currently you can play solo and you can trade.

Or are you asking for a completely seperate league with its own economy? So its basically disabling groups altogether?

This will never happen, GGG are not going to split the playerbase further. We already Have a SSF, Hardcore, and Softcore for Standard and League, this is already 6 different seperate economies that players can use. You need players to have a thriving economy, the less people in each groupset the worse the economy will be.

There are many people that lack critical thinking skills, and suffer from extreme FOMO. These people, regardless of how many times it is explained to them, think that group play means more individual wealth and therefore it's unfair. They also don't seem to grasp the concept that tik-tok reels aren't telling the whole story.

So what they want is a trade league with group play disabled. What they don't grasp, or choose to actively ignore, is the fact that group play is often WORSE per person than equivalently high level farming strategies for solo. Group play does drop more loot per map, compared to solo, which is a GOOD thing for solo trade players as it means more shit on the market to buy than if there were no groups.

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Cyriac_Darakus#1022 a écrit :

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Valsacar#0268 a écrit :

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Cyriac_Darakus#1022 a écrit :

I have seen so many posts on this and I truly do not understand what people are asking for. Currently you can play solo and you can trade.

Or are you asking for a completely seperate league with its own economy? So its basically disabling groups altogether?

This will never happen, GGG are not going to split the playerbase further. We already Have a SSF, Hardcore, and Softcore for Standard and League, this is already 6 different seperate economies that players can use. You need players to have a thriving economy, the less people in each groupset the worse the economy will be.

There are many people that lack critical thinking skills, and suffer from extreme FOMO. These people, regardless of how many times it is explained to them, think that group play means more individual wealth and therefore it's unfair. They also don't seem to grasp the concept that tik-tok reels aren't telling the whole story.

So what they want is a trade league with group play disabled. What they don't grasp, or choose to actively ignore, is the fact that group play is often WORSE per person than equivalently high level farming strategies for solo. Group play does drop more loot per map, compared to solo, which is a GOOD thing for solo trade players as it means more shit on the market to buy than if there were no groups.

Well if its a case of them wanting group play disabled then that's just really selfish on their end.

If group play is as efficient as these people claim then GGG just needs to bring it in line with single player loot, at least in terms of physical drops.

One of the aspects of playing in a group that can be advantages is optimising loot drops for the party.

If you are running with a group of friends and someone drops a unique or lineage gem that is good for one of their friends, they would usually give it to them. This inherently increases your chance of getting better items for your character, and all without having significant drop rates over other players. Of course group play needs to be in line with single player so either 6x the drop rate for 6 people or personalised loot.

I see no problem with this and I think it is perfectly fine to have this kind of advantage, I mean it takes more time and organising to get a group like that together so having a small payoff is good.

And this won't happen in random pick up groups so it shouldn't force others into play group if they don't want too.

The downside is that bots can take advantage of this, but well I think that the botting issue can be resolved or reduced in ways that don't hurt the regular community so much.

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Sakanabi#6664 a écrit :

This will actually change nothing imo. The most effective players will always control economy no matter what. They wouldn't be able to group with bots yes but still they will be miles ahead.

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avastcosmicarena#5899 a écrit :

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Sakanabi#6664 a écrit :

This will actually change nothing imo. The most effective players will always control economy no matter what. They wouldn't be able to group with bots yes but still they will be miles ahead.

Doesn't matter. What does matter is that you have more of an equal opportunity chance to compete.