Monkey nerf is bad

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samik3k#2361 a écrit :

You dont want to die, play good or skip monkey.

This is why the monkey was nerfed. The old monkey made sense when you could skip it. But now that it's mandatory on all relevant maps and even interlude, they must now be doable by pretty much everyone.

0.3.1 was a disaster for the design of PoE2.

We can't have mechanics killing people in 2025 gaming. Is a casual slop the vision now?

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Kage#1250 a écrit :

It seems nobody knows what the game designer said about this. Shortly after the patch and people created a topic about how sad the monkey nerf is because it's iconic now, the game designer of poe2 commented and said they will still one shot, they didn't nerf the damage, they nerfed like hitbox when you are too far away or when you are so close to it etc.

It was more like bug fix.

Except the dev in question specifically said they DID lower the damage, and all user testing has show that they DID lower the damage, and POE2DB shows that they nerfed the damage signifigantly.

Quoted from reddit:

Base damage got nerfed from 530% to 463%

And they removed the +400% damage when the pillar centred on you and just replaced it with +150% damage.

Pretty big nerf

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ac429#4687 a écrit :

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samik3k#2361 a écrit :

You dont want to die, play good or skip monkey.

This is why the monkey was nerfed. The old monkey made sense when you could skip it. But now that it's mandatory on all relevant maps and even interlude, they must now be doable by pretty much everyone.

0.3.1 was a disaster for the design of PoE2.

I think the mistake was making the monkey the regular Vaal Ruins rare. They could have chosen almost any other boss to reskin and it would have been less of an issue.

Re: your 0.3.1 comment: my hope is that goals become more diverse once the endgame is available.

Act 3 Silverfist was good. Random copies of it in maps (Vaal Sergeant, Lightning monkey in maps and random Silverfist copies in summoning circle, that can one-shot player before loaded on screen) - not at all, terrible idea to put super-one-shot-boss into random spawn points without any cover to use.

The issue with monkey boss on maps - lack of covers we have in Act 3, boss was balanced by arena, without arena - it's simply random killer to destroy HC character and players progression. Not fun...

I am happy they nerfed it, at least properly defended characters can survive initial hit.

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onetruelai#7327 a écrit :

> looks inside

> not a single HC character

Look better

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BlastYa#4875 a écrit :

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onetruelai#7327 a écrit :

> looks inside

> not a single HC character

Look better

Nope. Still nothing.

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BlastYa#4875 a écrit :

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onetruelai#7327 a écrit :

> looks inside

> not a single HC character

Look better

Yep, he cant see a one little HC character :D

Btw, i agree monkey shouldn't be random event boss.
If you know its monkey = its ok

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ac429#4687 a écrit :

they must now be doable by pretty much everyone.

Its was doable, just roll on heavy attack, sideways...

If anything, it should have started w/ strongly reducing his crit chance and crit dmg. Leaving the rest as it was. See how that feels for a week or two and then make any final adjustments after that. (though a bit of hitbox adjustment wouldn't be too bad either.)

nah im glad they did. All these SC babies got no idea what its like to have to fight that thing on HC lol