Delete 0.3.1

Most of the people that like the patch are casuals who dont even juice. This game is now a participation trophy except without the trophy.

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KaosuRyoko#1633 a écrit :

They've explicitly stated their intended design is that you play the game for a month or two, then go play other games and come back for next league. They've found better retention that way. So to answer your question: not really.

Do you have a link for me to confirm that stated intention?

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gothaize#2921 a écrit :

0.3.1 best patch ever.
Maybe delete your game instead.

oh dont you worry

i am 100% sure, that AAAAA LOT of people will be uninstalling due to this patch.

you will get your wish.
dont you worry a thing my sweet gothaize.
dont you worry a thing.

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Pizzarugi#6258 a écrit :

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KaosuRyoko#1633 a écrit :

They've explicitly stated their intended design is that you play the game for a month or two, then go play other games and come back for next league. They've found better retention that way. So to answer your question: not really.

Do you have a link for me to confirm that stated intention?

https://youtu.be/tmuy9fyNUjY?si=cBPpxoraH7ZmjHoA


Old talk about PoE1, still relevant because they're clearly following the same pattern with PoE2 and have never stated or implied different in either game. He talks about it in there somewhere but too lazy to timestamp. I've also heard in mentioned in other interviews I've watched over the years but finding it in any of those many interviews wild be way too time consuming.

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KaosuRyoko#1633 a écrit :

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Pizzarugi#6258 a écrit :

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KaosuRyoko#1633 a écrit :

They've explicitly stated their intended design is that you play the game for a month or two, then go play other games and come back for next league. They've found better retention that way. So to answer your question: not really.

Do you have a link for me to confirm that stated intention?

https://youtu.be/tmuy9fyNUjY?si=cBPpxoraH7ZmjHoA


Old talk about PoE1, still relevant because they're clearly following the same pattern with PoE2 and have never stated or implied different in either game. He talks about it in there somewhere but too lazy to timestamp. I've also heard in mentioned in other interviews I've watched over the years but finding it in any of those many interviews wild be way too time consuming.

Huh, I remember watching that a long time ago. Didn't expect to be linked to that.

I'm honestly unsure how relevant that is anymore, if I'm being honest. Chris Wilson made this statement and he's pretty much stepped down from GGG. I mean hell, he made the old trade manifesto a decade ago and now we have asynchronous trade which runs counter to it.

A lot can change in a few years, design philosophy included.

They have said as much in pre launch interviews more recent for POE2 after chris' departure.

They are completely comfortable with people playing other games after awhile. They dont expect you to play forever, or even plan for it.


The POE2 discord even has their own staff talk about this as well. How they have a backlog of games now to play.

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MmentoMori097#3294 a écrit :

You people are insane. A week ago you wanted towers gone and more bosses. Thats exactly what we got and now thats bad?

No, the towers are not gone. They simply swapped impacting area by tablets to impacting each map separately. This gives flexibility for each map but removes benefits of overlapping. But the whole system is still the same, I think people wanting to remove towers wanted to have the whole system reworked. What we got is a duck tape fix. Cheapest solution possible, just to say "we removed towers"

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Pizzarugi#6258 a écrit :

Huh, I remember watching that a long time ago. Didn't expect to be linked to that.

I'm honestly unsure how relevant that is anymore, if I'm being honest. Chris Wilson made this statement and he's pretty much stepped down from GGG. I mean hell, he made the old trade manifesto a decade ago and now we have asynchronous trade which runs counter to it.

A lot can change in a few years, design philosophy included.

Sure but I directly mentioned those points you made. It is still relevant because they're still following that pattern. Do you have any evidence that the design philosophy has in fact changed? I'm not arguing it can't change by any means, just pointing it that the evidence I can see makes this still relevant today in this game as well as PoE1. They have adjusted their views on trade, but they also talked about it quote a lot along the path. They've never once mentioned a desire for people to play every single day of every league to my knowledge.

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KaosuRyoko#1633 a écrit :

Do you have any evidence that the design philosophy has in fact changed?

did you....

read any patch notes or play the game in the last 2 leagues?

the evidence is pretty clear.

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MedianSpider666#6485 a écrit :

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MmentoMori097#3294 a écrit :

You people are insane. A week ago you wanted towers gone and more bosses. Thats exactly what we got and now thats bad?

No, the towers are not gone. They simply swapped impacting area by tablets to impacting each map separately. This gives flexibility for each map but removes benefits of overlapping. But the whole system is still the same, I think people wanting to remove towers wanted to have the whole system reworked. What we got is a duck tape fix. Cheapest solution possible, just to say "we removed towers"

There is functionally no reason to path to any towers and you can freely ignore them as you please.Towers didnt get removed ,their function did which is what people were bitching about for the last month. The system is still getting reworked! They said 0.4 will be the endgame rework, this IS a duct tape fix because SO MANY people were bitching about it and GGG isnt going to drop a full endgame redesign midleague. That makes 0 sense