Concerning direction

hundreds of thousands are enjoying POE2 in its current state and like 95% of the changes made since 0.1 have been VERY well received by the clear majority.

you types constantly parrot this "small vocal minority" while missing the irony in that phrase.
if you dont like POE stop playing it. POE2 is still a POE game.

best of luck finding something you enjoy.

As a player with 6k+ hours and $10k+ dollars in poe1, I too wanted poe2 to be a different game than its predecessor. Unfortunately, most streamers with large audiences are juicers & blasters. And that influences the optics and criticisms of the game.

There are not many hardcore streamers that push for a slower, different game than poe1. DM and Rax seem to be the exceptions. Their play styles are more relatable to my own as a HCSSF only player. They are not crazy good (no offense) or running crazy fast builds most of the time.

As a criticism to these types of threads though, saying the game should not be like poe1 is a poor argument and lacks any merit. You need to specific with examples of gameplay you want to be different. Poe1 is the greatest arpg ever made, and even if you're a hater, it's at least top 3. Simply stating poe2 =/= poe1 has no footing. Provide concrete examples and criticisms of poe2. Once you do that, poe1 doesn't even come into it. You just rely on the merit of your feedback.

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JODYHiGHR0LLER#6171 a écrit :

hundreds of thousands are enjoying POE2 in its current state and like 95% of the changes made since 0.1 have been VERY well received by the clear majority.

you types constantly parrot this "small vocal minority" while missing the irony in that phrase.
if you dont like POE stop playing it. POE2 is still a POE game.

best of luck finding something you enjoy.

In 0.1 it was 2x more players even without free weekend. So these statements are weird. People are playing it because theres no alternative right now, and the game is still great especially in campaign and ssf.
But if there will be powercreep like in 0.3 it will be the same as poe1 in terms of game speed and lose new audience, why would they need two games with same people and same mtx? Its just 2x more work for the same people and their money.

Well here's a fact for all you trying to say we are the minority, the most players so far in the game was .1 which this patch didn't even see close to the initial player base bc once a lot of us seen the route they chose to go we just quite playing. If this was the right choice and you all are the majority were did all the players go then since launch?

Poe2 was even easier to 'break' in 0.1, I don't know what you're on about.

In a game as complex as this one, which gives the player a lot of freedom in how to customize their character, the top end 'overpowered' builds are inevitable.

The crux is to make them hard to achieve and introduce less damage taken modifiers to pinnacle content - but that will come with time - since there is no point in balancing too much with how many fundamental changes are/will be introduced.

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arandan#3174 a écrit :

Poe2 was even easier to 'break' in 0.1, I don't know what you're on about.

In a game as complex as this one, which gives the player a lot of freedom in how to customize their character, the top end 'overpowered' builds are inevitable.

The crux is to make them hard to achieve and introduce less damage taken modifiers to pinnacle content - but that will come with time - since there is no point in balancing too much with how many fundamental changes are/will be introduced.

The game was not balanced in 0.1 for sure, because it was an initial release with all those exploits and broken builds not fixed, but the core game was good, if you're not trying to "break" the game and just playing for fun.

What do you mean by the core game? How has it changed direction?

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Foeten5639#8632 a écrit :

Well here's a fact for all you trying to say we are the minority, the most players so far in the game was .1 which this patch didn't even see close to the initial player base bc once a lot of us seen the route they chose to go we just quite playing. If this was the right choice and you all are the majority were did all the players go then since launch?

Then PoE1 is a failure too if you look at it this way. No, numbers like this are totally normal, PoE 1/2 and hardcore ARPGs are niche, trying to open to the mass is just marketing play, they know they can't hold most of them but at least they try do get more fans into the genre.

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Nikuksis#6962 a écrit :

In 0.1 it was 2x more players even without free weekend. So these statements are weird. People are playing it because theres no alternative right now, and the game is still great especially in campaign and ssf.
But if there will be powercreep like in 0.3 it will be the same as poe1 in terms of game speed and lose new audience, why would they need two games with same people and same mtx? Its just 2x more work for the same people and their money.

To be fair the only reason 0.1 had 2x more players was because the EA release was a huge hype everywhere, a lot of people tried it, got annoyed from how unbalanced it was getting 1 hit by most stuff and just decided to not play it after or wait until full release when its more casual friendly

If it becomes more like poe1 it won't lose new audience, its more the reverse, newer and more casual players will enjoy it more, since as ''easier'' poe1 is, the reason newer/casual players don't play it is because of the complicated gear and gems mechanics and hard visibility when seeing incoming attacks from being an old system

Poe2 from the beggining has an easier gem and crafting system to appeal to more casual players, they don't need to be exactly like poe1 sure, but they're going toward a good path right now, making it more fun for people who has jobs that just wants to relax after a long day of work

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Nikuksis#6962 a écrit :

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JODYHiGHR0LLER#6171 a écrit :

hundreds of thousands are enjoying POE2 in its current state and like 95% of the changes made since 0.1 have been VERY well received by the clear majority.

you types constantly parrot this "small vocal minority" while missing the irony in that phrase.
if you dont like POE stop playing it. POE2 is still a POE game.

best of luck finding something you enjoy.

In 0.1 it was 2x more players even without free weekend. So these statements are weird. People are playing it because theres no alternative right now, and the game is still great especially in campaign and ssf.
But if there will be powercreep like in 0.3 it will be the same as poe1 in terms of game speed and lose new audience, why would they need two games with same people and same mtx? Its just 2x more work for the same people and their money.

0.1 was a completely new release backed by a massively successful marketing campaign, with the "zoom zoom"
0.2: more players than poe1 ever had, with the "zoom zoom"
0.3: more players than poe1 ever had, with the "zoom zoom"

alternatives do exist.
grim dawn, no rest for the wicked ect:
basically dead games just like the studios behind them.
that should tell you something about which type of player the "small vocal minority" is.
if you are already done with those i guess you could just watch paint dry. seems about as exciting.