This game is confused

I don't think GGG has figured out what they want with this game yet.

They make mobs hard to kill in the beginning, but that tapers off in less than 1 day.
They make an online game, but punish actual online play with a pause function that only works in single player.
They continue to openly invite insanely busted builds but nerf things about ones that are not even in the top 20.
There's so many crafting items that finding actual items which is supposed to be the exciting part means basically nothing.
They just let 1 meta build run rampant for an entire season while nothing else even comes close (same mistake d4 made)
They made the pace of the game so unbelievably fast that the season is over for most people by day 4.
They made uber bosses completely irrelevant. The end game is map grind but you don't need anything off an uber to do top tier map grind.
They watch speed runners do things in pure glitch fashion and don't nerf those things.
They make the last 10 levels completely inconsequential to even get.

I just don't get it. The identity of this game is just lost. They really need to at least either make the seasons only take 2 weeks each, or change the drop rates of basically all the crafting crap by 98% so people don't finish the game in 4 days. The only people not doing it is SSF players, but again....this is a multiplayer game that for some reason punishes multiplayer play. I DO understand that it's an incomplete game. I DO understand this is a beta....but the direction long before the missing content is just wildly imbalanced and it concerns me that they're adding more content when the content they already have is still messed up really badly. This is Blizzard level failure....

This is the PoE forum. Early Access feedback is here:

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/2213

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I know it sounds obvious but I guess it's early access.
Don't look at me like I'm trying to defend GGG, but you never know that they don't treat us as free play testers before full release.
Maybe that kind of environment gives them most amount of usefull data.
Leave untill 0.4, or if you really want to play try SSF (feels nice for me), crowdfound private league for you and the boys (I know it's paid but if you find at least 5ppl cost don't hurts much in my opinion).

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Rony66#3133 a écrit :

SOUNDS LIKE SKILL ISSUE KEKW

Talking about skills in a freetoplay game where you buy your stuff. Thank you for this touch of humor

i think something happened around 3-2 years ago, if you watch old game play footage the game even looked crystal clear in terms of visual clarity- now its big booms and flashes even in act1.

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Originalx9#7672 a écrit :

I don't think GGG has figured out what they want with this game yet.

They make mobs hard to kill in the beginning, but that tapers off in less than 1 day.
They make an online game, but punish actual online play with a pause function that only works in single player.
They continue to openly invite insanely busted builds but nerf things about ones that are not even in the top 20.
There's so many crafting items that finding actual items which is supposed to be the exciting part means basically nothing.
They just let 1 meta build run rampant for an entire season while nothing else even comes close (same mistake d4 made)
They made the pace of the game so unbelievably fast that the season is over for most people by day 4.
They made uber bosses completely irrelevant. The end game is map grind but you don't need anything off an uber to do top tier map grind.
They watch speed runners do things in pure glitch fashion and don't nerf those things.
They make the last 10 levels completely inconsequential to even get.

I just don't get it. The identity of this game is just lost. They really need to at least either make the seasons only take 2 weeks each, or change the drop rates of basically all the crafting crap by 98% so people don't finish the game in 4 days. The only people not doing it is SSF players, but again....this is a multiplayer game that for some reason punishes multiplayer play. I DO understand that it's an incomplete game. I DO understand this is a beta....but the direction long before the missing content is just wildly imbalanced and it concerns me that they're adding more content when the content they already have is still messed up really badly. This is Blizzard level failure....

0.3 is a massive failure.
I have no idea how people are constantly saying it's the best POE2 patch. It completely destroyed the game.

They need to put the game back in the oven for another 2 years before next season, because fixing this mess they created will take a LOT Of time and effort.

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Originalx9#7672 a écrit :

I don't think GGG has figured out what they want with this game yet.

They make mobs hard to kill in the beginning, but that tapers off in less than 1 day.
They make an online game, but punish actual online play with a pause function that only works in single player.
They continue to openly invite insanely busted builds but nerf things about ones that are not even in the top 20.
There's so many crafting items that finding actual items which is supposed to be the exciting part means basically nothing.
They just let 1 meta build run rampant for an entire season while nothing else even comes close (same mistake d4 made)
They made the pace of the game so unbelievably fast that the season is over for most people by day 4.
They made uber bosses completely irrelevant. The end game is map grind but you don't need anything off an uber to do top tier map grind.
They watch speed runners do things in pure glitch fashion and don't nerf those things.
They make the last 10 levels completely inconsequential to even get.

I just don't get it. The identity of this game is just lost. They really need to at least either make the seasons only take 2 weeks each, or change the drop rates of basically all the crafting crap by 98% so people don't finish the game in 4 days. The only people not doing it is SSF players, but again....this is a multiplayer game that for some reason punishes multiplayer play. I DO understand that it's an incomplete game. I DO understand this is a beta....but the direction long before the missing content is just wildly imbalanced and it concerns me that they're adding more content when the content they already have is still messed up really badly. This is Blizzard level failure....

If the beginning of act 1 is challenging but act 2 and beyond is not I dont know what to tell you. A single pack of 3 wolves dosent compare to the act 2 dreadnaught with 40 leaping on you from off screen.

The pause feature in single player is effecting you how? This is one of the wildest takes I have ever seen. If you are referring to the HC pause and exit, that has been going on before pause existed.

There will always be at least one busted build but I do agree, nerfing lesser played "weaker" stuff is not the answer to that.

Crafting items is the style of this game unlike others where its ground loot only. As crafting improves you will be able to make your own stuff with what you find. It sounds like you dont enjoy trade either based on this point which I invite you to play SSF and only use your drops to fit the game the way you seem to want it.

Pace of the game is so fast people are done in 4 days? Ok, instead of saying days put it in hours. It is very misleading to say that its 4 days when those people you are talking about put in over 10 hours a day. Very misleading to those who only have time for an hour or two a night or those looking in from the outside thinking about getting the game. Everyone who says im bored and beat everything in a week. They played well over 50 hours and traded like crazy which is essentially taking short cuts in a race vs those who race the track normally. If you dont want it that fast, DONT PLAY THE FAST WAY, You have options. You can parry every single pack for that slow methodical combat you guys claim to want but never actually do.

Maps were the grind in POE1 as well. This is POE2... you know a sequel. Meaning a continuation and same style. Oh thats right, I keep forgetting that when you watch the iron man movies that in 1 you see tony stark but in 2 the main character is aquaman. Its not iron man at that point. Pinnacles offer specific unique loot only they can drop. That is their point. That is their function as well as the highest level of boss strength testing. If you think they are too weak stop playing a op one shot build. Go in there and kill them with incinerate only or one of the other dozens of unused or low tier skills.

What speed running glitch are you referring to? And if there is legitimately a glitch that allows people to bypass parts of the game, did you report it in the bug section?

I do agree with the game being pulled in too many different directions but you are making wild highly untrue accusations in this post. 98% of the players are not done in 4 days. Not even 50% finish the campaign. Not even 50% see a single div all season. You really need to stop watching the people who play this game as a job for 10 hours a day every day for 2 weeks and say its too fast. If you think 100+ hours a season per character is too fast you are not connected to reality.

The end game needs a lot of work yes but again its an early access. More things will be added and improved. I just wish they were actually treating it fully like one and putting out weekly patches with small buffs to unused stuff so it can actually be tested. Then every 3-4 months they can do the massive content adds and nerfs so peoples work isnt gutted. If they knew how to nerf without a sledgehammer I would be all for mid season nerfs but since they cant, nerfs should be end of season while small buffs can happen weekly.

Overall you sound like you are on a rant about what others have been able to achieve and are either A) One of the people playing 10 hours a day and complaining or B) Comparing yourself to the players who do and jealous of what they have or angry you cant have it.

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They make mobs hard to kill in the beginning, but that tapers off in less than 1 day.

It tapers off in 2 hours or less, by maps you're 1 shotting everything from T1 to T15.

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They make an online game, but punish actual online play with a pause function that only works in single player.

How can you pause other players? And doesn't that mean anybody can pause before death, strategize, and essentially bypass the actual GAME part?

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They continue to openly invite insanely busted builds but nerf things about ones that are not even in the top 20.

They've always done this. Countless times while reading nerfs we see skills nerfed that nobody has or will ever use... why? GGG reasons.

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There's so many crafting items that finding actual items which is supposed to be the exciting part means basically nothing.

Nobody finds exciting things on the ground. I've played for 6 years now and the amount of times I've identified QUALITY items is 2-3x per LEAGUE. Mid items that have a little more life or res than mine? yeah sure. Legit items I'd buy? almost never.

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They just let 1 meta build run rampant for an entire season while nothing else even comes close (same mistake d4 made)

GGG doesn't know how to nerf, remember in 0.1 how they destroyed a few builds early into league, fans were so violently angry they decided "we will never do that again" so everyone can "have their fun" for the league.

I.E. You all did that.

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They made the pace of the game so unbelievably fast that the season is over for most people by day 4.

No, the game just has almost nothing to do whatsoever. Even in POE 1 many people are done by week 1, many of them with crazy gear to boot. In POE 2 i've done everything by day 3-4. Note, i'm stuck at home so I play as much as streamers, but i'm also quitting leagues MUCH earlier than streamers.

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They made uber bosses completely irrelevant. The end game is map grind but you don't need anything off an uber to do top tier map grind.

Yeah this was dumb of them. You all would NOT be able to handle POE 1 uber bosses..

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They watch speed runners do things in pure glitch fashion and don't nerf those things.

I actually don't know anything about this! but interesting...

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They make the last 10 levels completely inconsequential to even get.

Same with POE 1 to many. Many people feel a build is "done" by level 90, I, on the other hand, will call my level 95 character with 1%'er gear "a baby" because I can squeeze out another 10 million DPS for another 50-100d.

I will say in POE 2 there's almost no good skills on the tree, so much so all builds just use the same shit, and by level 90 i'm 1 shotting everything in T17

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AintCare#6513 a écrit :

i think something happened around 3-2 years ago, if you watch old game play footage the game even looked crystal clear in terms of visual clarity- now its big booms and flashes even in act1.

POE 1 whiners, whales, and streamers happened. These people did not like the new direction and they decided to do the one thing they are good at: trow a tantrum. And for whatever reason....well we know the reason......GGG mustn't upset these special babies. Why else have "big booms and flashes"......makes great streaming content.