Chilled Ground is going to make me QUIT THE GAME.

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smokesnugsYT#7752 a écrit :

... WHOSE STUPID IDEA WAS THIS?

Speaking of idea, yes is stupid, speaking of business point of view is brilliant for Souls ARPG. This game is created for addicted people and from this what I see what happen right now with GGG, this company doesn't care about casual player.

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Mashgesture#2912 a écrit :

I mean yea if this is too complicated for you then just vendor it.

Really takes 2 seconds to figure something like this out but you do you

Has nothing to do with complexity. It's just an hassle to have to regear. Or bringing multiple charm etc. I have no time to deal with that bullshit.

Btw, there's a very short but very effective guide on it :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acdWs8_7-68

im fine with the movement slow
i am not fine with the cast/attack speed slows coupled with it.

i sell for 1 ex and go next

Ground effects that slow you down are literally GGG's biggest trend. THey have been doing it since before I started playing, they have done it to hell in back in both games, and they will never ever ever let up.

the last 5-6 years all I hear is complaints about shit on the ground slowing us down, so has GGG, what did they do? Made a worse one. On purpose.


They don't care how you feel, not one tiny little bit, that's why they don't make "Manifesto's" anymore (in which they just said "hey sorry you don't like the game, not our problem buzz off)


THey don't care how we feel, never have, and never will.

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Rakie1337#5746 a écrit :

Ground effects that slow you down are literally GGG's biggest trend. THey have been doing it since before I started playing, they have done it to hell in back in both games, and they will never ever ever let up.

the last 5-6 years all I hear is complaints about shit on the ground slowing us down, so has GGG, what did they do? Made a worse one. On purpose.


They don't care how you feel, not one tiny little bit, that's why they don't make "Manifesto's" anymore (in which they just said "hey sorry you don't like the game, not our problem buzz off)


THey don't care how we feel, never have, and never will.

And yet many changes in the early access of POE2 reflect the opposite of this. 0.2 was the Vision league where the devs quickly learned what the players thought of their direction and started taking a lot of input to fix the game.

Regarding the chilled ground thing... It's tiresome to hear "we have a solution to this" as an answer to the complaint of "this is not a fun mechanic to engage with". I fully understand that there are fixes to the slow debuffs that are wrecking the endgame, OK? I still think it sucks and should be removed as it isn't a fun problem to solve and causes me to walk around wearing shittier gear just to solve something that i don't want to deal with in the first place. It's opportunity cost. During the EA period, we are to give feedback on what we like and what we dont, and both Temporal Chains and Chilled Ground are things I would like to see removed entirely. I don't know if it snows in New Zealand, but when you walk on ice it doesn't make you slow down. It's just stupid.

Also, the amount of ground that is covered by shocked / chilled / ignited ground on all maps is so wildly out of proportion. It is completely impossible to avoid it. It would not even make a difference if they just covered 100% of the ground in chilled patches. Why not make it a challenge to try and walk around this stuff instead? Oh yeah, because the ground is already completely littered with a thousand other things.. Thats right

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DarkDredd#2184 a écrit :

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smokesnugsYT#7752 a écrit :

... WHOSE STUPID IDEA WAS THIS?

Speaking of idea, yes is stupid, speaking of business point of view is brilliant for Souls ARPG. This game is created for addicted people and from this what I see what happen right now with GGG, this company doesn't care about casual player.

Well if that's the case, then they are doing a horrible job of it and accomplishing exactly the opposite of what you imply.

Casual people likely don't even think that the best option is to just delete the maps and move on, they might not even have enough maps to be able to afford deleting them.

It's the people who play a ton, like me (1500+ hours poe1/poe2) that are just choosing to delete them and move on, losing thousands of exalts in the process and being very annoyed and (like me) contemplating quitting the dam game over it!


I love the game, as reflected in 1500 hours playtime, and right now the main thing pushing me towards early league ending, outright just quitting the game is 110% the combined fact that Towers and Juicing maps is absolutely horrible and a complete slog that isn't only not enjoyable but now on top of being a slog, is ALSO incredibly expensive.

I have literally without question spent as much if not MORE currency on simply PREPARING the maps, than I have on GEAR to actually PLAY the maps!!!

It's absurd that the process of juicing and creating the maps to play is actually more of a slog and annoying than any other process in the game, and also the most expensive process in the game only rivaling literally gearing you're character it's self!!!

And I've heard plenty of people with the "just alch and go" strat, which I'm fine with you doing if you don't mind wasting you're time on unprofitable maps that don't progress you're currency at all, We know that even after the slog and expensive juicing process, mapping STILL isn't very profitable!!


So yeah, If you are saying they are doing this sort of thing to keep or attract only the most hardcore addicted players, I tend to disagree... because I'm one of those players and it's the main thing pushing me away... I have been fighting the urge to quit for over a week.. and the moment I find a better game or anything else with my time to do, it's happening. Which I hate to say, because I love this game and usually make several different characters / builds... but still only have my main as of right now, which is unusual for me.


And btw TLDR; I'm fine with slow effects and ground effects being deployed, but I can't remember in POE history where it has been as oppressive as the current iteration of "Chilled Ground" literally covering 90% of the moveable ground.

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Oinkaments#6390 a écrit :

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Mashgesture#2912 a écrit :

Get hit by another. Or bring two

Or dodge the thing.


Temp by iteself, can only do this by the way. If you have temp/chilled combo you just run into chilled and it procs the charm again.

Spoiler

Spoiler

rofl

btw if you get hit by temp chains just exit the game and re-enter. m.2 FTW XD

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smokesnugsYT#7752 a écrit :

12, I repeat TWELVE 1 - 2 of my FIFTEEN MAPS, Turned into CHILLED GROUND, After spending HUNDREDS of EXALTS to craft and juice these maps, I AM READY TO QUIT, I AM SICK OF THIS MOD RUINING ALL MY MAPS, THIS IS ABSURD.


FIX IT.

BTW, I have nearly 2,000 hours between POE1 / POE2.

I would hope it matters that you're single mod is making a 2,000 hour POE player contemplate quitting the game.

It pops onto TOO MANY maps, And it covers TOO MUCH AREA on the MAPS.


I AM LITERALLY PERMA SLOW IN CHILLED GROUND MAPS, WHOSE STUPID IDEA WAS THIS?

Oh brother, I recently played a chilled ground map and one of the rares had "temporal bubble" and "all damage chills" on it. I just stopped and let it kill me. Not gonna bother with this shit.

not relevant guys, just ignore, clearly GGG makes it so 90% of all maps have chilled ground,
clearly he slammed each of his 15 maps more than 6 times to reach a cost of hundreds of exalt


not sus

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Glowie_Zigger#5018 a écrit :

And yet many changes in the early access of POE2 reflect the opposite of this. 0.2 was the Vision league where the devs quickly learned what the players thought of their direction and started taking a lot of input to fix the game.

Regarding the chilled ground thing... It's tiresome to hear "we have a solution to this" as an answer to the complaint of "this is not a fun mechanic to engage with". I fully understand that there are fixes to the slow debuffs that are wrecking the endgame, OK? I still think it sucks and should be removed as it isn't a fun problem to solve and causes me to walk around wearing shittier gear just to solve something that i don't want to deal with in the first place. It's opportunity cost. During the EA period, we are to give feedback on what we like and what we dont, and both Temporal Chains and Chilled Ground are things I would like to see removed entirely. I don't know if it snows in New Zealand, but when you walk on ice it doesn't make you slow down. It's just stupid.

Also, the amount of ground that is covered by shocked / chilled / ignited ground on all maps is so wildly out of proportion. It is completely impossible to avoid it. It would not even make a difference if they just covered 100% of the ground in chilled patches. Why not make it a challenge to try and walk around this stuff instead? Oh yeah, because the ground is already completely littered with a thousand other things.. Thats right

All of these problems are in POE 1, especially the "amount of ground that is covered/shocked/chilled on all maps is WILDLY out of proportion" part -- been like that over a decade in POE 1 -- we have asked them every single league to dial it back for years... they only make more types we can't become immune to :)


The vision comes first, always has, always will. I don't know if you're a new POE 2 player, but if you go back and read some manifestos that are posted on the site... you will see GGG has told us to shove it 4x a year (every league) for 13 years.