GIVE THE RIGHT LEVEL OF STUFF APPORPRIATELY !!!!!!!!!!!!

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freudo#0225 a écrit :

If you're running T15s and not even finding Greaters, then it sounds like something is amiss with your Juicing technique. I've even found perfects before getting to T15 (not a ton, but not a ton @ t15 either).

That's not necessarily true. The problem with items with very low drop probability is that the distribution of those among the player base can be very uneven.

Also, in POE1 you had to save up for 6-Ls by collecting enough fusings, so why would it be a problem to do the same with JOs in PoE2? They could even adjust the reforge recipe so you need more lower tier JOs to get one higher tier JO, but having to wait for lucky drops or having to use the currency exchange just to get your skills 6L is just bullshit.

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quarki#9020 a écrit :

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AceNightfire#0980 a écrit :

Why ruin? It makes these lower tier orbs worth something, which is especially good for campaign players or players who play on low tier maps, because the stuff they find has actually some value.

Because everyone would just upgrade their shit, which in return would just inflate the market. Economics 101.

High tier gamers dont collect low tier orbs. Therefore, only campaign people will have them. And that will not be alot.

Economics 101

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quarki#9020 a écrit :

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C4Guy#0918 a écrit :

Or allow us to reforge them to the higher tier 3:1 like other items...

And ruin the economy for good? El eh él.

The economy in both GGG games gets ruined about 10 minutes into every league.

If anything, allowing orbs to be upgraded like runes would do a lot to fix the economy.

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The_Song#4903 a écrit :

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quarki#9020 a écrit :

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C4Guy#0918 a écrit :

Or allow us to reforge them to the higher tier 3:1 like other items...

And ruin the economy for good? El eh él.

The economy in both GGG games gets ruined about 10 minutes into every league.

If anything, allowing orbs to be upgraded like runes would do a lot to fix the economy.

I don't think you've taken economics in anyway shape or form.

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Coconutdoggy#1805 a écrit :

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The economy is ruined every league because the lower tier things become utterly worthless very quickly, and the higher tier things skyrocket to insane prices because they remain far too rare well also being the only things that have any value.

Allowing upgrading the lower tiers of things into the higher tiers; that would return value to lower tier items, which is an improvement to the economy, and would make the higher tier items less rare, which is an improvement to the economy.

Indeed the single change that would be the most effective means of improving economics in both PoE1 and PoE2, is making higher currencies easier to obtain, and with the orbs that are tiers of each other allowing upgrading lowers into highers like with runes is certainly an easy way to do that.

There is inflation, where a currency there's already too much of is jumping to larger counts, reducing it's value too much.
And there is winflation where a currency there isn't enough of is increasing in count to be at a better level.

As bad as it is when a gallon of milk costs 100 dollars because of inflation, it's a lot worse when it only costs 1 dollar, but you can't get a dollar because there's not enough dollars.
Anyone who knows anything about economics can tell you that.

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AceNightfire#0980 a écrit :

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quarki#9020 a écrit :

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AceNightfire#0980 a écrit :

Why ruin? It makes these lower tier orbs worth something, which is especially good for campaign players or players who play on low tier maps, because the stuff they find has actually some value.

Because everyone would just upgrade their shit, which in return would just inflate the market. Economics 101.

High tier gamers dont collect low tier orbs. Therefore, only campaign people will have them. And that will not be alot.

Economics 101

I hate to tell you, but if you could forge 3 pieces of 1 cent into 1 piece of 10 cents. And 3 pieces of 10 cents into 10 dollars, I bet you 999$ you sure as hell would collect every single penny you find.

Please don't comment stuff you don't even remotely comprehend. El oh él.

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C4Guy#0918 a écrit :

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quarki#9020 a écrit :

Because everyone would just upgrade their shit, which in return would just inflate the market. Economics 101.

Absolute bullshit! Jeweller's orbs are a tiny fraction of the market. The market wouldn't even notice if you could upgrade them 3:1.

Sure buddy, that's why there soooooooo many expensive items on the market right now.

Take economics 101 please, before commenting further.

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C4Guy#0918 a écrit :

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quarki#9020 a écrit :

There are some things, which shouldn't be easily obtainable. PJOs are one of that thing.

Nobody said it should be easy, but the rarity of PJOs is just fucking ridiculous for an item that's essential for almost all builds.

Not essential at all. That few dps's won't make or break any build.

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NightZombie_SA#6811 a écrit :

Lvl 89/90 in tier 15 and we still getting those bloody leeser jewllers orbs.. we on lvl 90+ stuff give us GREATER OR PERFECT AND STOP WITH THE FUCKING LESSER ORBS LIKE WE LEVEL BLOODY 1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dude what are you on about man

they litrally INCREASED the rates of perfects and greater dropping to a point where i have already dropped over FORTY perfect jewlers by now this league xD

they even give you free greater in acts and you can litrally buy perfect and greater off the market for pennies right now compared to divines we had to pay last league this is not a major issue.

this is such a non-issue. i've never dropped any - so i used currency exchange for them. no problem with that here

You guys know you're supposed to be playing an ARPG with a trade system and not a stocks trading simulator with a ARPG minigame, right?