Resales

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YNRY#3842 a écrit :

Don't answer that

Thanks for letting me not to answer, LOL
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YNRY#3842 a écrit :


Which primates? There's quite a variety.


Lots of letters, it can be hard to read for you, it's the first I found and not the source, where I read about it (not have a chance to find it because of prescription)

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3690609/
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Lapa#7073 a écrit :
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YNRY#3842 a écrit :


Which primates? There's quite a variety.


Lots of letters, it can be hard to read for you, it's the first I found and not the source, where I read about it (not have a chance to find it because of prescription)

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3690609/


What is your first language?
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Lapa#7073 a écrit :
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Jadian#0111 a écrit :
As someone who doesn't like interacting with trade, the speculators also provide a service to the market.


I'm afraid to argue with you, and have nothing to say if you call this is a "service"
Without the reseller, that 20d scepter would probably sell for 10d in a few days, or not at all if the original seller is unlucky. The reseller is gambling.

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Did a quick search, found this one as alternative:
Dernière édition par 6_din_49#4066, le 16 mai 2025 à 17:20:05
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6_din_49#4066 a écrit :
Without the reseller, that 20d scepter would probably sell for 10d in a few days, or not at all if the original seller is unlucky. The reseller is gambling.


That is what I'm trying to say. Resalers are making inflation in the market, also inflating my time. If it's also RMT - it's making real money also at my expense without my permission. I can not accept anyone who are not related to the product make money at my expense without my permission. More over, I would buy that scepter for 20d because there is 90 spirit instead of my ~80-83. With free 5 spirit and my bonuses with decreasing spirit - it's an additional minion. For summoner gem level and spirit - is the only option to multiplicatively increase damage. Also, today was a scepter for sale for 28d with ~95 spirit or smth like this. I texted. The guy joined, but declined trade, saying it's price is higher than 28d. Why is it happening? Because of speculators who devalue currency, market and my time as a regular player. It's just parasites, who appropriates someone else's work and in my opinion - one of the reason why people drop the game. It's from personal, I have such motivations when I see this. And I am a player who support with real money developers, making microtransactions. And this game costed me more than the most of my bought games. I think it is a problem. Big problem, and, I hope, GGG will act somehow.

In my case, I never buy smth for resale. I can buy similar item to my to corrupt, if I'm lucky (mostly not, despite corruption omen), and or sale my old item if I was lucky, or sale usually cheaper failed one. And usually I sale old items for the same price I bought, not increasing it. I'm not a source of truth, or some example. It's just my experience
In last epoch I had option to go SSF guild, and I could play +-with comfort. Here I have no options to play SSF because of resons, I described in a post-explanation. I need to use market. It's almost impossible to find/"craft" items for end game in current concept with 6 properties, and no targeted mutations. I wasn't so lucky to find even 1 item I could wear in end game for 900+ hours
Dernière édition par Lapa#7073, le 16 mai 2025 à 18:25:42
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Lapa#7073 a écrit :


That is what I'm trying to say. Resalers are making inflation in the market, also inflating my time.
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Yes, without resellers (aka snipers), you'd be able to buy that item cheaper. It would be better for you, worse for the original seller.

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Lapa#7073 a écrit :
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More over, I would buy that scepter for 20d because there is 90 spirit instead of my ~80-83. With free 5 spirit and my bonuses with decreasing spirit - it's an additional minion. For summoner gem level and spirit - is the only option to multiplicatively increase damage.
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Perfect items are expensive.

Items with 80%-90% of the perfect item's stats are like 5-10 times cheaper, a regular player would settle for those. Only rich players would pay 20 divines extra for +5 spirit.
Dernière édition par 6_din_49#4066, le 17 mai 2025 à 03:09:06
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6_din_49#4066 a écrit :

Items with 80%-90% of the perfect item's stats are like 5-10 times cheaper, a regular player would settle for those. Only rich players would pay 20 divines extra for +5 spirit.

I didn't say I was poor. With my 96 Kitava and 94 Lich had chance to farm. Omens, apocalypses fragments, a lot of chaos orbs from tens or hundreds chaos trial, a lot of items etc... And it would not be loosing 20d, because my current scepter was bought for 15d, and with omen of whittling (~5d) I replaced low tier affix to t7 intelligence, so, I think I could sell it for 20d. Of course, I could text to the original seller, but I was in chaos trial and missed((
And the main message of this topic is: source of getting currency/items you wear should be farm as a regular option, as it was developed by GGG and the main goal of such games. And not market speculations, like parasitism on regular players.
Dernière édition par Lapa#7073, le 17 mai 2025 à 08:00:57
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Lapa#7073 a écrit :
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6_din_49#4066 a écrit :

Items with 80%-90% of the perfect item's stats are like 5-10 times cheaper, a regular player would settle for those. Only rich players would pay 20 divines extra for +5 spirit.

I didn't say I was poor.
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Then the resellers are good for you also!

Having the chance to buy the item at higher price is better then not being able to buy it at all - for example, if the player who bought the item was actually using it.
Dernière édition par 6_din_49#4066, le 17 mai 2025 à 17:00:33

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