Do any POE 1 players LIKE the changes in POE 2? All systems are just worse :/

I don't really see much of anybody happy, except people brand new to POE 2 and don't know better yet.

I'm completely unsure why they made every single system in POE be similar, but much worse.


I don't understand why they made Expedition not worth doing.

I don't understand why they made crafting not worth doing.

I don't understand why they made essences not worth doing.

I don't understand why they made Delirium not worth doing.

I don't understand why they made strongboxes not worth doing.

I don't understand why they made the skill tree so bad.

I don't understand why they made the atlas tree so bad.

I don't understand why they made portals so bad.

I don't understand why they made about 99% of this game honestly. It brings absolutely nothing aside from WASD.


Most every bit of content they ported over from POE 1 has been absolutely trashed beyond use. In POE 1 I don't walk by every single mechanic because they are guaranteed worthless -- in POE 2 that is just how you play the game. Skip 90% of content, as it's all not worth even doing.

Most of the systems in this game are so bad we skip them, they aren't even worth interacting with.

I haven't encountered most of the old mechanics in PoE2, yet, because I play very little.
However, I do like the general direction they took.

I played poe on/off since early beta 2013 or whatever. I think as much as I whinge which is a LOT we have to remember it's early release and they HOPEFULLY make things better as we go and add more shit in. Strongboxes are gross at the moment and portals are weird. But yeah, give it a few "MAJOR" patches before losing hope. They have so much content to add, I'm holding out for delve and a melee class that isn't absolute garbage.

Agree with all of what you've said but yeah, EA. Honestly you'll see me crying in so many threads even though I know it's EA too haha!

I wish I could say "its early access, just wait till release" But I know it wont be much different. And you are so very correct, all the systems are so dumbed down a short bus 3rd grader could easily master them in one sitting.

GGG must think we all got into a horrible car accidents and have had to relearn how to chew and swallow food again. It's the only possible situation. Otherwise they would have made at least some parts of the game more complicated than tic tac toe.

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Sydneydonza#3078 a écrit :

I played poe on/off since early beta 2013 or whatever. I think as much as I whinge which is a LOT we have to remember it's early release and they HOPEFULLY make things better as we go and add more shit in. Strongboxes are gross at the moment and portals are weird. But yeah, give it a few "MAJOR" patches before losing hope. They have so much content to add, I'm holding out for delve and a melee class that isn't absolute garbage.

Agree with all of what you've said but yeah, EA. Honestly you'll see me crying in so many threads even though I know it's EA too haha!

These are not "EA" problems, these are design decisions they are married to. Like the complete lack of crafting in the game is intentional... and nobody knows why.

The things i'm talking about are not going to be changed unless we raise absolute hell like when they cancelled POE 1 until we revolted.

I can't stress this enough -- GGG calls this "their vision" (we mock the fuck out of this at this point, their vision is toxic)

I don't have much to hold on to in life so I'm holding on for 0.2 haha!

They mentioned strongboxes sucking at the last live interview I thought and mentioned changing it so it wasn't cringe but yeah. We'll see *cries*

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Sydneydonza#3078 a écrit :

I don't have much to hold on to in life so I'm holding on for 0.2 haha!

They mentioned strongboxes sucking at the last live interview I thought and mentioned changing it so it wasn't cringe but yeah. We'll see *cries*

The problem is they tried to fix strongboxes and have deployed at least 1, if not 2 fixes... they are still worthless. Literally not even worth using my finger to click a singular button. That bad.

And that's how I treat almost all content in this game. It's all bad. It's all underwhelming. It's all not profitable except 1 mechanic..


I wish every brand new POE 2 players loaded up POE 1, and then raised hell once they see how much GGG destroyed the franchise for zero discernible reason.


Very very very few people like any of the changes made to this game. And GGG doesn't care, it's absolutely shocking they can't be bothered to care what we, the people the game is made for, think.


For years they used to make "Manifestos" telling us what they were doing, and why they were ruining shit and how we should just fuck off and accept it... Yeah they stopped doing those about 2 years ago, because every one went like this -- "We know you aren't happy, but we're right and you're wrong. Buy our stash tabs!"

I think the combat feels more fluid and less clunky. As good as POE 1 is, it always felt a little like a browser game to me with how the combat felt.

I'm not a fan of the end-game at all. In POE 1 I liked being able to log on, spend about 20-30 min crafting up 100 maps then just running them non-stop until I ran out.

Now I gotta clear towers and a bunch of maps I hate just to get to 2-3 maps I do like to play.

Also, all the vaal maps are without a doubt the worst maps I've ever played in any game ever.

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I can't say that it is better than poe1, but I was really fed up with that game. I took a 3-year break, so it might be different now, but I was pretty annoyed at the time about being forced to engage Syndicate content while mapping, and having to stop what I was doing to do Delve, Incursion or other side contents to sustain map pool on SSF.

IMO there was too much "not really optional" side content in that game. Sometimes we just want to running maps and do fast content inside it, like Breach or Delirium. I'm just happy with a fresh experience, and looking forward for the improvements.


About the specific contents you mentioned:

- I skip expedition content even on poe1. I hated that since release.

- Greater essences are too rare, but the idea is not bad. If they let us upgrade regular to greater essences, it would be an improvement

- Delirium is fine, outside of performance impact and bugs. Inline with poe1

- Strongboxes are fine, outside of performance impact. Inline with poe1. It wasn't that great in poe1 anyway.

- Skill tree is an ongoing work. They will improve it with time. Poe1 skill tree at release was pretty much different than the current one too.

- I'm fine with Atlas tree, but they will also improve it with time anyway.

- Portals? Do you mean the death penalty on maps? I don't care. Softcore is too easy IMO, so I don't play it.