Why does POE2 try so hard to reduce the fun at high levels?

Reading this thread makes me smile.

Seems more and more people are becoming aware of GGG's lack of ability to do much more then create a casino for bots and RMT, and the crowd of players that loves to spend their moneys on their wares.

Seriously, over the years they have literally tuned the rates in POE1 for anything even remotely decent to be unobtainable by the average mortal man, i pretty much regret the fairly generous support i have given them over the years.

I dont really see many of the big original spenders around often. Sure would be cool to touch bases with that crowd and see what they all think of the changes since POE's original inception way back when.

But yea... Companies going down hill fast, and hell, they couldnt even get past one game... (Sure POE2 exists, but lets face it, theres an awful lot of negative feedback aimed at it) at least blizzard made many quality games before "modern blizzard" went to shit.

Thats all.
GGG - Why you no?
Dernière édition par JoannaDark#6252, le 6 mars 2025 à 14:38:19
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JoannaDark#6252 a écrit :
Reading this thread makes me smile.

Seems more and more people are becoming aware of GGG's lack of ability to do much more then create a casino for bots and RMT, and the crowd of players that loves to spend their moneys on their wares.

Seriously, over the years they have literally tuned the rates in POE1 for anything even remotely decent to be unobtainable by the average mortal man, i pretty much regret the fairly generous support i have given them over the years.

I dont really see many of the big original spenders around often. Sure would be cool to touch bases with that crowd and see what they all think of the changes since POE's original inception way back when.

But yea... Companies going down hill fast, and hell, they couldnt even get past one game... at least blizzard made many quality games before "modern blizzard" went to shit.

Thats all.



GGG is nowhere near the company they used to be. As assinine as the staff was before.. remember when they nerfed HH indirectly and lied to Chris Wilson about it, and Chris threw a piss fit and made them 'fix it' citing that HH 'will always be powerful? well he's fucking gone now. Chris was the only singular person at the entire company of GGG that I've seen literally put the player FIRST. Not a single soul at GGG like that anymore, the other staff just hates us.

Jonathan has hung us all out to dry while taking away everything that made it possible for him to even have a career at this company.

How they can shatter everything that made them even relevant in the first place is beyond me. Without the good designs from 5+ years ago there would be no GGG.

They should be 100% beholden to their original design and put fans first. Not last.
Dernière édition par Rakie1337#5746, le 6 mars 2025 à 14:43:30
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JakkerONAIR#4902 a écrit :
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yummysushipjs#7638 a écrit :
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BigBeuss#5956 a écrit :
you don't need lvl 100, lvl 94 is perfectly fine to considere your leveling over.
The loot part i agree mostly bc HCSSF is imo the most enjoyable way of playing and i would love easier way to get 6L or specific unique.


6 passive points is a lot of power left on the table.

If 94 is good enough then surely 88 is good enough.

If 88 is good enough, surely 82 is good enough, yeah?

My monk is lvl95. If I got him to 100 that would be a LOT of dmg or defense that would make T4 pinnacle bosses much easier to deal with.

The very second something akin to 5ways from POE 1 become available there will be no end of people offering that service and buying that service.



No. It would not be "a LOT of dmg or defense".



I don't know what world you inhabit, but in my world getting another 50% evasion rating and energy shield is a lot of defense.

Or getting 135% critical damage bonus is a lot of damage.

If builds are "done" at level 90 then why is the level cap not set to 90?
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yummysushipjs#7638 a écrit :
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JakkerONAIR#4902 a écrit :

No. It would not be "a LOT of dmg or defense".



I don't know what world you inhabit, but in my world getting another 50% evasion rating and energy shield is a lot of defense.

Or getting 135% critical damage bonus is a lot of damage.

If builds are "done" at level 90 then why is the level cap not set to 90?


Seems like you live on the moon. The "50% evasion and energyshield" are not a "more multiplier" you get on top, it's just adds to your already existing rating.
For example, if you get with your last 6 points 1m dps more... yeah, that is isolated a LOT, but on a build that already has 50m DPS... not.
If you get 1k ES more, that's isolated a LOT, but not if you have over 15k anyway.

Every single point has a "power value" that is mathematically detectable and the last 6 points are not "a LOT" on a character that is already 94.

Even if you only take the 6 points compared to the total amount of points, it's not a LOT.
The 6 out of 123 is only 4,8%.

And on top. You normally take nodes with a really high "power value" FIRST and not at the end with your last few points. So it's a YOU problem when you take the "135% critical damage bonus" with your last points. That's just mismanagement.
Dernière édition par JakkerONAIR#4902, le 6 mars 2025 à 15:01:01
i wish the leveling was infinite tbh (with huge exponential xp needed obv) so ppl will quit complaining about max level being to hard/slow to reach. IDK my main is lvl 96 and i don't feel like i'm missing something, and i could probably go 100 if i wanted expect i don't see the point (build done, all content done). I rerolled in hc and have way more fun than trying to get four more level on my trade league char buildig different stuff and dieing ahah :D
Dernière édition par BigBeuss#5956, le 6 mars 2025 à 15:13:45
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JoannaDark#6252 a écrit :
Reading this thread makes me smile.

Seems more and more people are becoming aware of GGG's lack of ability to do much more then create a casino for bots and RMT, and the crowd of players that loves to spend their moneys on their wares.

Seriously, over the years they have literally tuned the rates in POE1 for anything even remotely decent to be unobtainable by the average mortal man, i pretty much regret the fairly generous support i have given them over the years.

I dont really see many of the big original spenders around often. Sure would be cool to touch bases with that crowd and see what they all think of the changes since POE's original inception way back when.

But yea... Companies going down hill fast, and hell, they couldnt even get past one game... (Sure POE2 exists, but lets face it, theres an awful lot of negative feedback aimed at it) at least blizzard made many quality games before "modern blizzard" went to shit.

Thats all.


+1000
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Bebehercio#4402 a écrit :
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JoannaDark#6252 a écrit :
Reading this thread makes me smile.

Seems more and more people are becoming aware of GGG's lack of ability to do much more then create a casino for bots and RMT, and the crowd of players that loves to spend their moneys on their wares.

Seriously, over the years they have literally tuned the rates in POE1 for anything even remotely decent to be unobtainable by the average mortal man, i pretty much regret the fairly generous support i have given them over the years.

I dont really see many of the big original spenders around often. Sure would be cool to touch bases with that crowd and see what they all think of the changes since POE's original inception way back when.

But yea... Companies going down hill fast, and hell, they couldnt even get past one game... (Sure POE2 exists, but lets face it, theres an awful lot of negative feedback aimed at it) at least blizzard made many quality games before "modern blizzard" went to shit.

Thats all.


+1000


I can tell you all my OG friends quit a long ass time ago. There was a friend I haven't seen for a few years because he's violently angry at GGG over their changes (like me, he's homebound disabled -- poe was literally all he had). He logged on after they destroyed quantity for the first time in years, just to see if they really actually in his words "removed the soul of the fucking game"

Yeah, all he had to see was "back to basics" removed and he uninstalled.

Dock farmer, beta supporter, and disenfranchised customer made aware they mean literally nothing at all to GGG.


For years I complained "this shit is getting too hard for my friends" league after league, nerf after nerf, stupid vision after horrible vision... but you know what? they're all long gone now, so it's irrelevant.
Dernière édition par Rakie1337#5746, le 6 mars 2025 à 21:14:10

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