A Humble Request Regarding PoE1 MTX and Past Supporter Packs in PoE2
Dear GGG Team,
First and foremost, I want to express my deepest gratitude for the incredible work you’ve done with Path of Exile over the years. The passion and dedication your team puts into the game are truly admirable, and the excitement surrounding Path of Exile 2 is a testament to the incredible journey you’ve taken us on. I greatly appreciate that PoE1’s MTX will carry over to PoE2, ensuring that longtime players can continue to enjoy their past purchases. This is a wonderful way to honor the commitment of your veteran community. With that in mind, I would like to make a humble request on behalf of new players who will be joining PoE2. Many of PoE1’s past supporter packs featured stunning cosmetics, and for newer players who weren’t around to purchase them, it can be disheartening to see these items forever out of reach. Would it be possible to offer a one-time opportunity for PoE2 players to acquire past supporter packs or at least selected cosmetics from them? This would not only allow new players to feel more included but also provide an additional way to support the game as it moves into its next chapter. I fully understand that exclusivity is an important aspect of supporter packs, and I respect the reasoning behind it. However, even a limited-time or curated re-release could mean a lot to newer players while preserving the integrity of these items. Thank you for taking the time to consider this request. Regardless of the outcome, I remain incredibly excited for the future of Path of Exile 2 and look forward to experiencing everything you have in store. Best regards Sean Dernier bump le 5 févr. 2025 02:34:02
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Sorry but I hate to break it to you:
FOMO is an extremely powerful psychological tactic used to drive up the desirability of items. This is especially important in a digital environment where all cosmetics can be easily duplicated infinitely. They will, quite bluntly, never re-allow purchase of the VAST majority of PoE1 cosmetics for this exact reason. |
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" I see your point, but let’s consider this from the PoE2 perspective. FOMO is indeed a powerful psychological tool, and I fully acknowledge its importance in driving the desirability of cosmetics. However, it is important to differentiate between Path of Exile 1 and Path of Exile 2. When PoE1 was the sole game, maintaining strict exclusivity made perfect sense—once a supporter pack was gone, it stayed gone, reinforcing the scarcity principle that FOMO thrives on. But PoE2 changes the landscape. GGG has already demonstrated remarkable generosity by allowing all PoE1 MTX to carry over. This decision, while undoubtedly a great gesture for veteran players, implicitly acknowledges that strict FOMO policies from PoE1 are no longer absolute in the PoE2 era. In that same spirit, offering a one-time opportunity for PoE2 players to acquire past PoE1 supporter packs would not diminish FOMO—it would instead serve as a natural extension of the transition to PoE2. Why This Benefits Everyone 1. For PoE1 Veterans – Their previous purchases remain valuable and respected, as this opportunity would be a one-time event, not an ongoing dilution of exclusivity. Moreover, it does not impact any future FOMO-driven sales, ensuring that new supporter packs in PoE2 retain their desirability. 2. For PoE2 New Players – Many players who discover PoE2 will have never had the chance to support PoE1. Rather than being permanently locked out of years of cosmetics, they get a single chance to integrate into the PoE legacy. This fosters goodwill and increases their investment in the franchise. 3. For GGG – It generates additional revenue without creating long-term issues for future FOMO strategies. This is not about making past MTX permanently available, but rather about ensuring that PoE2 launches with a sense of inclusivity, rather than an immediate feeling of “you missed out forever.” It strengthens player engagement and monetization at a crucial moment—the transition into a new era. The Core Principle Remains Intact This proposal only applies to past PoE1 supporter packs—not future ones. GGG can still implement FOMO-driven exclusivity on all PoE2 cosmetics without compromise. The exclusivity of PoE1’s items has already been established for years; giving new players a single opportunity to purchase them at the start of PoE2 does not undermine the original FOMO strategy—it simply allows PoE2 to begin on stronger footing. In short, PoE2 is not PoE1, and the shift in structure justifies a shift in approach. This would be a measured, one-time, and beneficial move for all parties involved. |
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Thanks for the well-written posts. That's rare to see here.
I kindly have to disagree though about the psychological aspects. Even if MTX effects from PoE1 get carried over to PoE2, they are still exclusive to the player that purchased them. If GGG would allow new players to buy past pack cosmetics, people would (consciously or unconsciously) lose some trust in GGG. Because if this happens one, people would get the feeling, that everything ever purchased may only be time exclusive and will be purchasable at some later point, even if it takes years. Even if GGG promises that this is only a one-time event and they would never do it again, how should the player know? If it happens once, it can happen twice or thrise. It would kinda destroy the "FOMO" factor. So as much as I'd like to see some past cosmetics in sale too, I fully understand that this wouldn't be a good choice of GGG from a marketing perspective. Dernière édition par AceNightfire#0980, le 4 févr. 2025 13:48:49
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Speaking as someone who spent enough on PoE1 to auto invite into PoE2 EA, I can say from my own perspective.... if they opened up many of those supporter packs from leagues, years ago and allowed new players to buy them....
I would feel CHEATED. There will be other cosmetics. This entire notion of catching SOME players up from something OTHER players acquired is pure entitlement. And yes, even paid cosmetics from previous leagues. To me, they are a symbol of tenure in this game. And nothing would make me quit this game faster than someone wearing a Blood Knights Armor set asking in chat what resistances mean. |
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I get both sides.
It would be great to open MTX purchases to everyone and not to use the FOMO to get ppl to buy stuff because we are just talking about skins in a video game ppl like to express themselves with. On the other side, many ppl view their bought MTX not only as support towards GGG, but as a "reward" for their support, a thing they were able to get as long-time fans. The conclusion is, that GGG went for the "get it in time or it's gone" philosophy for whatever reason, that doesn't really matter, so changing it now would cause way more problems than financial gain. Long-time fans would feel "cheated" and their "special" thing devalued. While I personally do not care the slightest who should be allowed to buy stuff from the past - changing the way you handled things now doesn't seems to be the right move to me. |
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The supporter pack MTX have such a big psychological worth because you, as a player, know that no one else in the future can get their hands on it. And that's exactly the reason why players ask for them, because they want to have it too. But they have to settle with the ones that are being released right now or in the future. FOMO is a legitimate way to sell stuff and since PoE is a free game (PoE2 will be), GGG needs to use these psychological tactics.
Trust me: As soon as they rerelease these supporter packs, they would get tons of money on a short-term, but would lose on a long-term perspective. |
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I appreciate your perspective, and I fully understand the importance of maintaining the integrity of past exclusivity. However, I believe it’s essential to view this discussion through the lens of Path of Exile 2 as a distinct entity rather than merely a continuation of PoE1.
GGG has already recognized this distinction by allowing all PoE1 MTX to carry over to PoE2—a decision that was widely praised as generous and inclusive. This move ensured that veteran players retained full value from their past purchases, reinforcing their commitment to the franchise without feeling left behind. My proposal follows the same spirit of inclusivity, but for new players who are joining PoE2 without any prior opportunity to support PoE1. Providing a one-time opportunity for PoE2 players to acquire past PoE1 supporter packs would not undermine FOMO or exclusivity principles for future PoE2 cosmetics. This is not about setting a precedent for repeated re-releases, nor does it introduce a long-term trust issue—because PoE2 is not an expansion of PoE1, but rather a fresh start. Just as PoE1 players were granted continuity with their MTX in PoE2, new PoE2 players deserve a single moment of accessibility to past PoE1 cosmetics, ensuring they can engage with the game’s legacy rather than feeling permanently excluded from years of content they never had the chance to support. This proposal is fundamentally about balance: • Respecting veteran players – The exclusivity of their past purchases remains intact, as these supporter packs have already been unavailable for years. A one-time opportunity does not diminish the prestige of having supported PoE1 when it was active. • Welcoming new players – A single opportunity to acquire past supporter packs allows PoE2’s new community members to feel more integrated into the game’s legacy, rather than immediately facing an environment where they are permanently locked out of years of content. • Aligning with GGG’s existing philosophy – Just as GGG has shown remarkable generosity in allowing PoE1 MTX to seamlessly carry over to PoE2, extending that same goodwill to new players in a measured and controlled way further reinforces the inclusive spirit of the game’s transition. Further Refinement to Address Concerns To address concerns about exclusivity, GGG could even implement a restriction where these reintroduced supporter packs are only usable in PoE2. This would ensure that PoE1 players retain their full benefits and exclusivity within the original game, further safeguarding their past contributions. I fully understand the perspective of veteran PoE1 players, but my intention here is to represent the sentiments of new players. I believe that, from the perspective of the art and design teams, they too would welcome this opportunity, as it would enhance the experience for new members of the community. Moreover, as GGG has clearly stated, PoE2 is an independent game. In crafting this suggestion, I have certainly considered the viewpoint of veteran players. Therefore, the extension of inclusivity shown in allowing PoE1 MTX to seamlessly carry over to PoE2 feels very fair. As I mentioned earlier, the proposed buy-in model for new players could be further refined by limiting the purchase to items usable only in PoE2, which would ensure that veteran PoE1 players do not feel any sense of loss or deprivation. After all, these are two distinct games. Further Thoughts I understand that some veteran players may share your concerns and priorities. However, I believe that a larger portion of veteran players would welcome the opportunity to purchase past supporter packs as a special and inclusive gesture as we transition into the new era of PoE2. Many might have missed out on these packs for various reasons when they were available. Providing them with a fair opportunity now doesn’t target anyone individually but rather offers every player an equal chance to engage with the legacy of the game. I fully recognize that no proposal is perfect and that not everyone will be satisfied. However, I’ve taken multiple groups’ perspectives into account in crafting this suggestion. While some of you may not agree, I understand your concerns. The intent of this post is simply to provide a voice for new PoE2 players to be heard, with no ill intent whatsoever. Thank you for raising these important points—it has helped make this proposal even more comprehensive. Sean |
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" But that's not how trust works. A part of the players buy these packs because they trust GGG that they will never ever under no circumstances offer these packs again. It doesn't matter if it's PoE1 or 2, they purchased the rights to be exclusive owners after the supporter packs have ended. Path of Exile 2 is still Path of Exile. It's the successor of the first one. Also, PoE2 and 1 share more or less the same community. It's not a brand new game franchise with a complete new community. These players want to have the exclusive rights on the items within this community. The moment GGG does offer this once, this trust for exactly these players is broken. It's like you have a girlfriend and she cheats on you. If she told you "Babe, this was a once in a lifetime thing, please trust me" could you really trust her again? Would you never have doubts in your mind when she goes out alone? I guess many couldn't trust that girlfriend again. And if GGG does it once, I would fully understand if people would lose their trust in GGG. I think, instead of focusing on the past MTX, GGG could introduce new and maybe "similiar" cosmetics. Distinct enough, but the same flair. I think that would be the best solution. |
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" Cheated how? you lose nothing fundamentally important. If someone wearing a cosmetic you have is enough to make you rage quit is that not just immaturity? Please understand i mean no ill will in this statement i am just asking as someone confused by the logic of this. Supporter packs do not need to be exclusive as they are just supporter packs as an option. Leagues are a vastly different culture as they themselves are bred to be time exclusive. I might be misunderstand but i thought the supporter packs and league packs were a different thing. Again no ill will here just someone confused by the notion of exclusive superiority ideals. |
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