Exp loss on death topics are getting out of hand.

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PhillipBurns#5461 a écrit :

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Zuvuyaa#2578 a écrit :

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Toforto#2372 a écrit :

Almost all of those people are still in campaign, just wait till they get to maps lmao

Yeah, sure. No one can like the game because you don't, they probably just don't know how to play. What a joke.

Wait, how much time did you put into path of exile 1? We can see your forum post and your account details. According to both those things you 1) barely played path of exile 1 and 2) you argue with people who have on perfectly fair opinion.

Stop arguing with people on their opinion, when you don't even actually care about the mechanic, they're talking about lol?

I have 110 hours of PoE1 and 160 hours of PoE2. Currently lvl 85 playing SSF, just selling items for currency to gamba my own items.

When they announced that PoE 2 would be a DIFFERENT game from PoE 1, I was extremely excited to play it precisely because it wasn't that crap that was inaccessible to new players.

I started playing PoE 1 during Sanctum and it was IMPOSSIBLE to start the game without researching a build guide made by someone. I play SSF and I'm not worried about other people's builds, I like putting together my own build. I'm currently making t12/13 maps without researching anything other than "how does "x" status affect my damage". In PoE 1 this was IMPOSSIBLE.

That guy just wants PoE 2 to be just like PoE 1, you can see that in every post he does. Is very different from constructive feedback. S

bugged comment, duplicate it halway, real comment is below.

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DatonKallandor#0939 a écrit :

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PhillipBurns#5461 a écrit :

You're saying that the feedback forums are somehow not a majority, then where are they getting their feedback from?

So a couple things there:

1. I'm not "saying feedback forums are not the majority". That's a *fact*.

2. Any decent developer has internal metrics to base decisions on.

3. Just because something is not the majority doesn't mean the feedback doesn't matter. A good developer doesn't live under some kind of dystopian tyranny of the majority where "amount of vote" = "must be done". A developer with a brain is perfectly able to read feedback and *think about it* before deciding to act on it, or discard it. This is why forums are still useful (along with bug reports from forums being a very good source of common and uncommon technical issues), despite representing a tiny fraction of the player base.

I think the point was, the majority of the players who are at the point in which they'd experience XP penalties, and map issues ect ect are still a minority. You cannot factually say that, that portion of the player base is not on the forums, unless you can show metrics for it? Just like I can't say that they are all here complaining, but I can say that of those complains it could actually be the majority of players who are at that point and experiencing those issues, at least I think I can.

I'm ending this with the fact that we both agree the forums are totally useful. Feedback is useful, bug reports are useful, community engagement is useful. It's great.

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PhillipBurns#5461 a écrit :

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Zuvuyaa#2578 a écrit :

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Toforto#2372 a écrit :

Almost all of those people are still in campaign, just wait till they get to maps lmao

Yeah, sure. No one can like the game because you don't, they probably just don't know how to play. What a joke.

Wait, how much time did you put into path of exile 1? We can see your forum post and your account details. According to both those things you 1) barely played path of exile 1 and 2) you argue with people who have on perfectly fair opinion.

Stop arguing with people on their opinion, when you don't even actually care about the mechanic, they're talking about lol?

I have 110 hours of PoE1 and 160 hours of PoE2. Currently lvl 85 playing SSF, just selling items for currency to gamba my own items.

When they announced that PoE 2 would be a DIFFERENT game from PoE 1, I was extremely excited to play it precisely because it wasn't that crap that was inaccessible to new players.

I started playing PoE 1 during Sanctum and it was IMPOSSIBLE to start the game without researching a build guide made by someone. I play SSF and I'm not worried about other people's builds, I like putting together my own build. I'm currently making t12/13 maps without researching anything other than "how does "x" status affect my damage". In PoE 1 this was IMPOSSIBLE.

That guy just wants PoE 2 to be just like PoE 1, you can see that in every post he does. Is very different from constructive feedback. Sure that are lot of improvements to be done, but i HOPE that GGG doesn't go for "let's make PoE 2 just like the s*** show that PoE1 is" kind of fix.

Make a Post to Complain About the "Complaint Meta" of People Complaining

The snake biting its own tail, the chicken and the egg.

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Zuvuyaa#2578 a écrit :

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Thanks for admitting you're arguing on a mechanic you've barely experienced and obviously don't care about.

Ironically, you're attacking my opinion/feedback so the game IS THE WAY YOU WANT IT.

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PhillipBurns#5461 a écrit :

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Zuvuyaa#2578 a écrit :

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Thanks for admitting you're arguing on a mechanic you've barely experienced and obviously don't care about.

Ironically, you're attacking my opinion/feedback so the game IS THE WAY YOU WANT IT.

I didn't. I just think you can be happy playing PoE 1. And leave PoE 2 for players that want a new game, as promissed by GGG.

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Zuvuyaa#2578 a écrit :

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PhillipBurns#5461 a écrit :

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Zuvuyaa#2578 a écrit :

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Thanks for admitting you're arguing on a mechanic you've barely experienced and obviously don't care about.

Ironically, you're attacking my opinion/feedback so the game IS THE WAY YOU WANT IT.

I didn't. I just think you can be happy playing PoE 1. And leave PoE 2 for players that want a new game, as promissed by GGG.

That makes even more sense (sarcasm)

I come to the forum, give my feedback and usually it's with the context of ;I love this game and hope it continues to succeed, but here is my take on this thing that I think is good/bad;

Maybe stop trolling bro

Yeah, nice "feedback". Keep going.

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Zuvuyaa#2578 a écrit :

Yeah, nice "feedback". Keep going.

Okay I will keep going, you just said you quit path of exile 1 because you felt like it's inaccessible to new players and build pathways. After 100 hours you gave up.

Yet on another post you said

That's the fking problem. People prefer to look meta builds on the internet than play the game by themselves. And since they can't make an original build by themselves that do the same thing, they get frustrated. Shame. I'm having a blast.

So, by your logic, those players should just quit because they feel like the game is inaccessible as you did poe1. Nice