[3.27] Ice Dancing God - Icestorm/Cyclone/CI - Viable For Everything

Yeah its correct the Start is Bad in this League with this Build but it makes more fun when you come to the Endgame. Its the second League i play this Build and its very nice again. Thx for this Build Kelvyn.

I can't protect the hive at tiers 1-5. Maybe there's a secret? At wave 20+, that's it.
According to the tooltip, DPS is 7k without charges... and that's not enough to kill mobs.

If by start you mean first few hours when you get your head down and don’t look for int items on trade sure.
Once you start looking at trade to get int items, It just kick off.

So, what are the graft skills y'all are using the most?

I've been using a Call the Pyre but I'm still in Act 7, almost 8 due to real life being a bit hectic.

It's a shame, but this build can't deal with Hives. I can already go to the red tier, but it's simply impossible for them to close down Hives on white maps.

Hey Graiaule, what are you playing? I was looking at your tree and gear, seeing golems and wand/kinetic/totem/spellslinger.

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AHDPE9IH#7666 a écrit :

I can't protect the hive at tiers 1-5. Maybe there's a secret? At wave 20+, that's it.
According to the tooltip, DPS is 7k without charges... and that's not enough to kill mobs.

The build is bad, you need too much RNG and buy too many items for it to feel good on league start. I swapped to another build on the 2nd day and have no regrets. You basically need 5s/6s on both weapons and at least 1500 int for the build to feel ok, basically what most other builds can do SSF without any traded gear.

The only benefit is this build becomes braindead EZ mode with enough investment. I have played this build in the past to 100 on a few occasions and it is mindless broken OP when geared, but you need to invest at least 20 hours and hope for some RNG or do some heavy grinding with bad clear speed to get it online, otherwise it just feels bad.

Just my experience, if you have 5+ hours a day to play the build can be good after some investment. I swapped to poison concoction and was doing maps and clearing 5x faster within 6 hours.

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AHDPE9IH#7666 a écrit :

I can't protect the hive at tiers 1-5. Maybe there's a secret? At wave 20+, that's it.
According to the tooltip, DPS is 7k without charges... and that's not enough to kill mobs.

The tooltip damage for Ice Storm is notoriously inaccurate. It only shows the average damage of a single ice shard. Each storm drops 8 shards, we have 5 storms going at a time, and each storm takes about 1.65 seconds to drop all 8 shards. So that 7k you’re seeing is more like (7k * (8 / 1.65) * 5) =~ 170k DPS.

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Tithonia#4676 a écrit :

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AHDPE9IH#7666 a écrit :

I can't protect the hive at tiers 1-5. Maybe there's a secret? At wave 20+, that's it.
According to the tooltip, DPS is 7k without charges... and that's not enough to kill mobs.

The tooltip damage for Ice Storm is notoriously inaccurate. It only shows the average damage of a single ice shard. Each storm drops 8 shards, we have 5 storms going at a time, and each storm takes about 1.65 seconds to drop all 8 shards. So that 7k you’re seeing is more like (7k * (8 / 1.65) * 5) =~ 170k DPS.

Correct.

Last league my trickster had a boss staff tooltip of 51k (67k after about 6 seconds.) No helical or simplex either. So you have quite a ways to go.

Also, it's useful to check Kelvynn's dps via POB against yours. If his DPS appears unusually high even though your gear is the same or better than his, go spend the time to see what error you made. I screw up things every single league. E.g., forget to select a mastery, forget to craft the right affix, etc.

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Bellaluna1722#6299 a écrit :

Hey Graiaule, what are you playing? I was looking at your tree and gear, seeing golems and wand/kinetic/totem/spellslinger.

Heya Bella!

Since I'm taking a class now, among my usual stuff, I don't have the bandwidth to spend multiple days played in this league. So I decided to see if I could take a Jungroan build idea -- with zero hand holding -- and get a working character.

Jung's tree had an error in it that took me quite a while to figure out, but I eventually did so. Now I need to build up my defenses. I'm aiming for an EHP of around 100k+, so we will see.

Yes, it was going to be Kinetic Rain LOL but I expected that to get nerfed anyway, and I have never played a wander before.