[3.21] Megachonk RF Jugg | Ultra Tanky + Endgame Viable + Very good starter

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pat_hibulaire a écrit :
hello, it"s me again xD

i'va a question about the 3.18 changes : we dont use molten shell anymore, do we loose tankiness so ? i ask because no defensive layers replace it

thanks a lot

Both Molten Shell and Immortal Call are good but I placed Immortal call because I think it would be slightly better. A bit more tankyness.
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ok thanks a lot

i saw on POB that you put vaal immortal call 20/20, this is way to expensive for me atm, can you advice what to do instead of it ? vaal immortal call 20/0 or immortal call 20/20 ?
vaal was a mistake heh, just regular immortal call is fine, vaal is only standard and will be reworked.....someday
Been having fun with this. It's my third build of the league and I'm finally settled in playing it. It's been a long while since I last played a RF character and it's as OP in the early game as I remember.

The addition of Fire Trap is also nice. I'm still zooming past mob as they melt, but when facing a boss I'll throw a couple of traps and see the difference that they make. Best part was starting right at 18-20 instead of the traditional 'hey level to 70 and then you can start the build' that seems so common in these forums.


I'm not sure how I'll fund it (despite playing the game on and off for years and years) now that they removed the Prophecy mechanic. It used to be my way of making a dozen exalts even if it was grindy to keep a stack of 3-4 items always for sale. Hopefully the changes to the Atlas will be of use in this since just hoping something random and of value drops is a bit... random.
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dougch a écrit :
vaal was a mistake heh, just regular immortal call is fine, vaal is only standard and will be reworked.....someday

ok thank you, the thing is that i feel less tanky with IC than with molten shell, i dont know if its just a feeling but its annoying me because i choose this build for the tankiness

do you think it can be possible to manage both IC and MS ? for instance if i take off some skills like arcane surge, leap slam, or culling strike ?
Dernière édition par pat_hibulaire, le 19 mai 2022 09:15:28
Hey there. Thank you for great build! Few questions if i may.
1) Why both shield charge and leap slam? SC for hitting mobs while running and LS for jumping over obstacles?
2) You mention in the video that RF dont get bonus damage from spell damage, but we take IRon Will, is this for fire trap and inferno cry only?
3) in the pob you ahve burning damage mod on helmet AND awakened burning damage as a gem, do they stack or it is a mistake and we should use efficasy as a gem?
4) summon skitterbots quality effect of bonus movement better then divergent version?
Ty in advance.
hello guys please i need help

i really dont understand i'm dying a lot, without trying real end game content, just dying on map bosses, on my pob my effective pool life seems realy great so i'm asking here if someone can help me, if you see somethings wrong about my build

thanks a lot

my pob :
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Dernière édition par pat_hibulaire, le 20 mai 2022 19:12:12
I see a bunch of stuff that improves the effectiveness of exposure, but I'm not sure what you're using to actually apply it. What am I missing?
yes, i've "master of fire" who inflicts fire exposure to nearby enemies in my cluster jewel

thanks a lot to having a look to my build
Your guide looks pretty cool at a first glance.

Unfortunately it needs a serious rework cause of a lot of flaws.

Example:
The used "Vaal Immortal Call" is drop disabled and can only be obtained in STANDARD league.

Source:
https://pathofexile.fandom.com/wiki/Vaal_Immortal_Call

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