[Outdated] Ultimate EDTrickster [2M dps - UNKILLABLE]

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Gottschkopf a écrit :

Adding the removal of Blood Drinker brings you to 20 respecpoints.

Why would you remove Blood Drinker? It's in every iteration of the tree really.

Are you unspeccing inefficiently? What I'd do is put 2 points between fangs of the viper and bottom side (next to revenge of the hunted) and only after it's connected from both sides, remove the 2 points below coordination. If loss of str node is bad, pick prowess temporarily. But in the long run this pathing saves 1 point to reach Blood Drinker. I would never unspec that node though. In the given build it's much stronger than Quick Recovery (because mana regen does nothing, so all we care about is life).

Anyway I'm counting 7 respec points not 20.

I guess I have a different idea what's "heavy respeccing", which to me is something like when you level a herald stacker, aura bot, golem elementalist or deep delve character and you have to scrap half of your tree afterwards if not more. Oh, and about every CI character that has to drop all life nodes after levelling and transitioning to energy shield.

Also I used clusters to my advantage, you can unsocket any cluster that doesn't have another socket in it for 0 respec cost and use those points as a buffer when you have to do small pathing corrections and don't want to wait 2-3 levels to do so.

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Viktranka a écrit :

Which trees are you referring to? When I compare the lvl 90 POB and the poe planner links under leveling section I see minimal changes.

Yes it was those minimal changes I was talking about. I wasn't expecting to have to respec at all since before seeing these replies to my post I didn't know that was a common thing in POE.

My character is from a long time ago when I first tried out POE and due to changes since then was given a full passive respec. I'm pretty sure some respec points were already used so I'm just going by the finished tree and not taking anything I'll need to respec later.

Since level 46 is the highest I've ever gotten in POE a lot is new to me and I'm trying to use this build as a learning tool, which perhaps wasn't a primary intention.

I still don't understand how the HP leeching works since Blood Drinker says it affects attacks and right now I'm using Bane/Blight/ED and none of those gems have the 'Attack' keyword and I don't think they're triggering Blood Drinker? Also if I throw on a rare ring with +dmg to attacks and mouse over those skills the dps calculation that the game shows doesn't show an increase, so it appears to me like they are not 'attacks' in game terms...

As for picking yellow gear while leveling I have no idea what the good stats are. I suppose either Evasion or Evasion/ES gear, and Health/HP is obvious in most games. But I'm using my ES like a mana pool (really neat synergy there) (because I don't have the MoM keystone yet, but I suspect that damage will start to pull from the ES around mana after that). So should I be actively trying to stack with ES? Also when I get hit it takes a big chunk of HP away and I don't appear to be leeching anything.

If someone wants to share some advice on what stats to look for on yellow gear I'd appreciate it.

How much weaker is the build without Wind Dancer? Or is there a known substitute? A lot of things are unknown about 3.11 of course, including new Legion jewels, but I was really really hyped to play this build next league.

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chrishobbel a écrit :

How much weaker is the build without Wind Dancer? Or is there a known substitute?

Yeah I am just learning about trying to buy items from other players and there doesn't seem to be a way to tell whether you're getting Wind Dancer or not.

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Nalgarryn a écrit :

Yeah I am just learning about trying to buy items from other players and there doesn't seem to be a way to tell whether you're getting Wind Dancer or not.

The keystones are determined by the name in the first line. For example:

"Denoted service of 2147 dekhara in the akhara of Nasima"

For wind dancer, you want it to say Deshret. All of the other effects are random. But the keystones you can actually target.

The issue with 3.11 is that Wind Dancer is being removed from the timeless jewel and placed on the passive tree. Quite a bit out of the way of normal pathing for this build.

EDIT: Also -

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Nalgarryn a écrit :

I'm using Bane/Blight/ED and none of those gems have the 'Attack' keyword and I don't think they're triggering Blood Drinker?

You still benefit from the 8% increased maximum life. Even if you don't use the life leech.

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Nalgarryn a écrit :

Yeah I am just learning about trying to buy items from other players and there doesn't seem to be a way to tell whether you're getting Wind Dancer or not.

Add "Denoted service of # dekhara in the akhara of Deshret" as a stat filter to your trade search to make sure any Brutal Restraint Timeless Jewel you buy gives you Wind Dancer.

Edit: What Orion19819 said.

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Nalgarryn a écrit :

Yeah I am just learning about trying to buy items from other players and there doesn't seem to be a way to tell whether you're getting Wind Dancer or not.

It needs to say Deshret on the jewel, not Asenath or Nasima.

But this will be changed next patch anyway (apparently keystones that go on the tree will be replaced with something else).

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Nalgarryn a écrit :

Yes it was those minimal changes I was talking about. I wasn't expecting to have to respec at all since before seeing these replies to my post I didn't know that was a common thing in POE.

It depends on the build, but for example typical CI / LL build will start as life based and respec later to ES.

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Nalgarryn a écrit :

My character is from a long time ago when I first tried out POE and due to changes since then was given a full passive respec. I'm pretty sure some respec points were already used so I'm just going by the finished tree and not taking anything I'll need to respec later.

That's fine. In worst case you can buy regret orbs if you run out of respec points.

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Nalgarryn a écrit :

I still don't understand how the HP leeching works since Blood Drinker says it affects attacks and right now I'm using Bane/Blight/ED and none of those gems have the 'Attack' keyword and I don't think they're triggering Blood Drinker?

It doesn't. You pick that node and adjacent ones for 20% hp. General idea is that any life based build in its complete state (80-90 lvl) should have 150-200% life increases from tree.

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Nalgarryn a écrit :

As for picking yellow gear while leveling I have no idea what the good stats are.

I don't bother much with gear during levelling, I don't play hardcore so keep that in mind, I don't have to worry about dying as long as it's not too much. And then I just buy cheap gear around level 50-60 that has decent amount of life and resists. (50 life on smaller items, 75+ on the bigger ones and enough resists to be capped after second Kitava.)

I really don't pay any attention to evasion during levelling. You can just use jade flask and it outshines any amount you get from levelling gear.

You can also get a wand with +1 to chaos spells before you are high enough level to buy cane of unravelling.

Hey, thanks for the build and all the effort you have put into it! I am having a lot of fun with it. I finally have a build that can comfortably clear all content (I first started playing late last league).

Here's my current build


I am currently trying to min-max it and would like to hear your thoughts.

Helmet: Just crafted it today. Cost about 10 ex total. Do you think it's BIS or could I do better? Maybe sell it later and buy an even better one.

Bow: The standard 10 ex bow. Am I correct in assuming that the 'chance to blind' I got from the conquerer exalt is useless? If so, I'm thinking I might recraft it when I have no other improvements to make.

Quiver: Standard. Do I need better rolls? Is there some rare BIS quiver I should aspire to?

Body Armour: Standard. Do I need better rolls?

Amulet: Really happy with this ;p

Rings: The topaz ring is ok. I can't find anything better (at a reasonable price). I'm going to replace the diamond ring last to plug any holes (strength/ resistances)

Gloves: Pretty good. Thoughts?

Boots: Pretty good. Thoughts?

Belt: Ok. Next upgrade once I have some currency.

Thanks again for the build and all your effort!

@_Lathspell_

I would upgrade quiver to hunter rare with chaos dot multi and life (or even double dot multi if you can), especially since helmet gives you a lot of ES but no life. But it's still a pretty good helmet, 300+ es and -9 chaos res is a nice outcome from craft. :)

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_Lathspell_ a écrit :

I am currently trying to min-max it and would like to hear your thoughts.

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Thanks again for the build and all your effort!

- As viktranka said, a rare life+ double dot (+res?) quiver will be pretty damn good.
- Helmet is pretty bis to me, that'd be very hard to craft better. 320 es and -9 is no joke.
- Life catalysts on your jewelry, but you probably know about that.
- Some of your pieces could use a few divines (boots and amulet for life)
Other than that, your plan of action of upgrading your belt, then fixing res/attributes by replacing your diamond ring seems to be what I'd do too.