Facebreaker/Unarmed with Shield?

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Adanedar a écrit :

Also, the cruel reward from bandits is multiplicative and will add to your DPS.

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Broliciously a écrit :

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draygourn a écrit :

how do unarmed do damage anyway? what is the base damage that 900% more damage will come from?

The base dmg you do damage from with Facebreakers is just plain physical damamge from jewelery or some unique armor pieces. For example if you have an Iron ring with 1-4 damage, your 1000% Facebreakers add 10-40 damage, so you get 11-44 damage with just 1-4 physical damage. Now imagine you have like 20-40 physical damage from your gear, that would be equal to having a weapon with 220-440 damage. And you can achive way more than that... so do the math :D

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Broliciously a écrit :

As you can see, Facebreakers have 'more unarmed PHYSICAL DAMAGE' so just stack that. Physical Damage. No elemental damage. Hatred aura is an exception as it amplifies your physical damage (like Added Fire Damage).

FACEBREAKERS : (800-1000)% More Unarmed Physical Damage
The only non-weapon items/things that give physical damage are:
-Iron Rings : Adds 1-4 physical damage
-affixes on rings and amulets (stack with Iron Ring physical damage bonus) : not sure, highest I saw is like 12
-Meginord's Girdle unique Heavy Belt : Adds 10-20 Physical Damage
-The Magnate unique Studded Belt : 25% Increased Physical Damage
I assume Meginord is better belt, right?
-Broadstroke unique Heavy Quiver : 30% Increased Physical Damage
-Ezomyte Peak unique Rusted Casque : 20% Increased Physical Damage
-Blackheart unique Iron Ring : 5% Increased Physical Damage
-Le Heup of All unique Iron Ring : (10-20) Increased Damage
-Bramblejack unique Plate Vest : Adds 2-4 Physical Damage
-Foxshade unique Wild Leather : Adds 5-12 Physical Damage
-Deshret's Vise unique Steel Gauntlets (trololololo gl using that in a Facebreaker build^^)
-Daresso's Courage unique Baroque Round Shield : 20% Increased Physical Damage

-Hatred aura gem (amplifies physical damage by adding a percentage of it as cold damage)
-Cruel difficulty Bandit quest reward

-the standard things like Infernal/Dominating Blows' added % physical damage when leveling it as well as support gems like Added Fire Damage, Melee Physical Damage, Culling Strike, Melee Physical Damage on Full Life (not really practical for this builds' playstyle, maybe for ES builds)
-Frenzy charges and Frenzy gem charge boni


I think that's pretty much everything that boosts your damage considerably when using Facebreakers (melee physical damage nodes do too, but they are added on top of Facebreakers' huge % bonus so they do like nothing and you will be wasting your stat points by skilling them). If anybody knows of some other things, be free to post here :D

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Crossflip a écrit :

Also consider the new unique shield, Chernobog's pillar or something like that. It converts phys damage to fire, among other useful things.

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Broliciously a écrit :

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Crossflip a écrit :

Also consider the new unique shield, Chernobog's pillar or something like that. It converts phys damage to fire, among other useful things.

This shield isn't as good as you think. Fire conversion is useless for Facebreaker builds and the 5% Enfeeble on attack proc is wasted as well since we strive to kill everything in one blow^^
The best choice is Daresso's Courage since it offers nice defenses and multiplicative damage. And this multiplicative damage is what counts. The way armor works is such that the higher your per hit damage is, the less reduction the enemy has vs you and we will hit like a freakin juggernaut.

Formula (taken from wiki):
Damage Reduction = Armour / (Armour + (12 * Damage))

Let's say we hit for 3k per hit and the enemy has 10000 armor (which I assume enemies won't have that often lol)
--> Damage Reduction = 10000 / (10000 + (12 * 3000))
<=> Damage Reduction = 10000 / 46000
<=> Damage Reduction = ~0,217 = 21% Damage Reduction (the game always counts down)

So you basically hit for 79% of your damage vs a super high armor target which makes stacking armor vs you useless :)