Recent GET FUCKED banwave.

did this include the automated trade bots that flip currency?
I'm guessing not.

This is good news that a large botter is ceasing operations on PoE. It isn't ever fair that legit players are being screwed over with bots running 24/7 and then dumping on the PoE commodity market what they have harvested. No one who ever has gotten account banned can legitimately complain. You were looking for shortcuts to gain PoE wealth and knew that botting was illegal so getting caught and account banned was always a possibility.

With the bans having been done the value of exalts has fallen back down where it should have been all along (< 100 Chaos) so maybe gear prices will get back to normal.

Goodbye and good riddance.

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NekoHanten a écrit :

did this include the automated trade bots that flip currency?

Trade bots (the "true" ones) were a part of the certain botting program mentioned in the thread.
AFAIK it's not a separate/remote application, but a feature within the program.
Taking into account it was the most popular and widely used bot program, it may eventually mean that "gifted" trade bots in PoE were dramatically reduced in numbers as well.

The various scripts, able to monitor the trade platforms and autoreply with buyout offers for ex., are not taken into account for not being "true" automated trade bots with certain features and abilities.
Can't tell if these are under ggg's radar, or if any actions were taken.

The same thing will probably happen all over again. You'll have peace and quiet for a month now but you'll see EX at 200C in 3.4. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that killing 1 botting site creates 5 more.

I've seen this shit so many times and in so many games. Even when I feel like that the case is finally closed, it never is and never will.

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Kiss_Me_Quick a écrit :

The same thing will probably happen all over again. You'll have peace and quiet for a month now but you'll see EX at 200C in 3.4. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that killing 1 botting site creates 5 more.

I've seen this shit so many times and in so many games. Even when I feel like that the case is finally closed, it never is and never will.

Quoted for MFing truth.

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Sarno a écrit :

I've always found it interesting that GGG 1) has a rule against "naming and shaming", and, 2) gives people the "Banned" title. Now, you could say they're trying to prevent spurious allegations - and fair enough - but what happens when someone launches a successful appeal after being banned? Either you're in favour of these things being confidential or you're not.

Pretty sure they only apply the banned tag to people they are really sure did break the ToS, there are plenty enough people posting about locked/banned accounts that don't have said tag on the specified account (probably because the action isn't finalized)

I find this amusing. Bots run rampant for years, GGG doesn't give a shit, a known RMT site owner holds a stake in the company. Enter Tencent, exit the RMT shareholder, and suddenly GGG cracks down on the bots. A big coincidence? Or are we seeing the first real fruits of the Tencent takeover?

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Kelvynn a écrit :

Bots run rampant for years, GGG doesn't give a shit

government employs people who hackeed them, hardware companies employ people who broke/hacked their devices, gaming companies seek advice from those who saw a challenge in breaking their code to protect the game from automatisation. it's usual practice.

but that they didn't do anything is you simply spreading fud. what did you expect? ggg anouncing the monthly breakdown of account locks/shadow bans to brag around to impress people who didn't get the concept that these numbers aren't usable to make a game attractive?

it's always several sides to this, some who think: "hey, they really do something about botting" and those who think "wow, this game really has a huge botting problem". the problem is, the second party won't touch your bot infested game in the first place.

aditionally, implementing behaviourally bot detection isn't fool proof and likely prone to produce more false positives. if you spent several hundreds into mtx this isn't good news at all because there are likely botters who did the same trying to protect their accounts.

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cronus a écrit :

but that they didn't do anything is you simply spreading fud. what did you expect? ggg anouncing the monthly breakdown of account locks/shadow bans to brag around to impress people who didn't get the concept that these numbers aren't usable to make a game attractive?

The bot dev posted that the previous anti-cheating campaign in PoE was in 2015. For 3 years GGG didn't do shit. Until Tencent took over.

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cronus a écrit :

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Kelvynn a écrit :

Bots run rampant for years, GGG doesn't give a shit

government employs people who hackeed them, hardware companies employ people who broke/hacked their devices, gaming companies seek advice from those who saw a challenge in breaking their code to protect the game from automatisation. it's usual practice.

I am not sure how many times this has to be repeated: GGG did not hire an RMT specialist. The RMT site owner bought shares of GGG, owning a part of the company. There is a huge difference.