Am I delusional, or running higher maps is not worth it

Even if your build can faceroll red maps, one thing is not guaranteed, which is the actual hard content, which is balanced around 15k ES, 2 offscreen oneshoting everything and enormous doubledipping.

It is more about making something, that is durable, because as it is now, you could clear maps on a 2link setup with any build, doing challanging content feels better, than facerolling stuff.

Tried to do uber atziri on my cleave build today, and almost slammed my head to the wall after failing the run at the trio, but it was more fun than the uberlab/shaped strand or the reliquary keys.

(guess reached the limits of RT melee, won't get any better than this)

If the only thing you want to do is generate currency, then you could just flip items all day long, sounds boring isn't it?

Krebderke: If you directed some or all of this at me, I meant strictly to ask if investing lots of time and currency in higher content was a mistake, not trying it at all. I still want to kill Uber Atziri and the Shaper, if I can. Though I'd need to somehow improve my witch a LOT or restart, since regular Atziri and her trio both raised my pulse, at level 92 with 6000 life and almost 6500 ES.

It wasn't directed at any1, but since I'm about to drop dead of exaustion I don't even know if my comment was relevant to the thread at all hahha.

If you want to have an easy life, reroll into CI chaos bladevortex occultist, 5m dps on a 80 chaos budget, reaching 8-10k ES.

You will oneshot normal atziri and everything with 10 blades even before poison would start doing any work.

Oh god I'm so salty I could open a saltmine.

Ah, how you tempt me! There is no NaCl shortage on my end, either.

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krenderke a écrit :

Tried to do uber atziri on my cleave build today, and almost slammed my head to the wall after failing the run at the trio, but it was more fun than the uberlab/shaped strand or the reliquary keys.?

Yeah? Did you like running around like a chicken watching your health drop faster than a prom dress in June? Or was it the one shots that got you all moist?

LMAOOOO

Player's have a low bar for "fun" in this game. Oh look, a half a second to get out of the way of a certain one shot! Woweee, this is a blast! Pro game developing right there. We can't think of fun stuff and have lost total control over the skill tree and items, so let's just keep stacking monster damage and giving every boss a tiny arena where they spam one shot skills. Genius!

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Mischief67 a écrit :

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Prostitute4Money a écrit :

Why the hell would I pick beacon/sulphur wastes/volcano/shaped quay over easy strand or even acid lakes or even oasis...

Cause you're playing a game and should enjoy diversity and adversity?

But please by all means play the same shit over and over and over and then feel like a king cause you need an ego boost somewhere in your life.

Remember SouthPark WoW Episode? Yeah go kill a few million boars ma boy, very exciting!

make love not warcraft

Isn't the whole genre "not worth it"?

You kill monsters to gain loot to kill monsters faster to gain more loot to kill tougher monsters to gain even better loot to kill tougher monsters faster... and then you don't even get your better loot, most of the time.


...sounds like a giant waste of time.

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Nephalim a écrit :

Chris said some time ago they intentionally made end game content less rewarding in some aspects compared to shit tier content (t11 strands).

Are you fucking kidding me?

on topic: did a lot of red maps only to spawn chayula and uul in t3 and t5 respectively. So yeah, probably red maps are there only for people who want to push their limits. You want money, grind shit tier.

It WAS not worth it, but now with crystal belts, steel rings, etc. it's definitely worth it. Regular mobs die fast enough anyway. Just shame that drop of those things is so rare.

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_Tiem a écrit :

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krenderke a écrit :

Tried to do uber atziri on my cleave build today, and almost slammed my head to the wall after failing the run at the trio, but it was more fun than the uberlab/shaped strand or the reliquary keys.?

Yeah? Did you like running around like a chicken watching your health drop faster than a prom dress in June? Or was it the one shots that got you all moist?

LMAOOOO

Player's have a low bar for "fun" in this game. Oh look, a half a second to get out of the way of a certain one shot! Woweee, this is a blast! Pro game developing right there. We can't think of fun stuff and have lost total control over the skill tree and items, so let's just keep stacking monster damage and giving every boss a tiny arena where they spam one shot skills. Genius!

Certainly was more fun, than walking trough red maps, oneshotting everything, not even using my expensive flasks while trying to get tier 5 essences/invasion bosses( only the reflect porcupine spawns, only that thing, no way I will ever finish that challange)/stone circles the last perandus chest to spawn to get those achivements.

And I have no incentives to grind to level 100, so trying some endgame content was the correct decision from me.

At least now I know I won't be able to get 36/40 with this build.

On the flip side I did not enjoy the vaal constuct ninjabuff and I was oneshotted 4 times, no degen deaths, probably if I had some form of doubledipping I could have finished the map, but as it is, it feels like melee is being balanced over bladevortex.