[R.I.P.] life Mjolner done right by Rico - Juggernaut version - R.I.P. thx to "balancing" policy

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RicoKGB a écrit :
@ _Ka0tiC_ the question is: can your build generate 8 power charger for each discharge? I have my doubts. If you plan to drop saffels and its +max resistances and its ~30 spell dmg you will be better with rare es shield with good 80+ spell dmg inc roll and +100 to life roll.


Well romiras giving 1 from cyclone 1 from bv, also I put pcoc in place of 2nd discharge and the shield got 20% chance on hit to give 1 also. So a few chances to make 8 via Inya's it works good but I'm really hooked on using lycosidae just doesn't feel as smooth now without it but malachai's was definitely a bit more damage I just don't like playing with out the 100% hit rate now... Also I had to give up some flask slots and put on a topaz with shock removal and ruby with freeze removal since I can't put shock removal anywhere else then wise oak became not so good without balanced resistances but even just with malachai's it still felt stronger than my other setup with wise oak and balanced resistances.
Test it in a lower area you'll see you are constantly shocking yourself so that means you are hitting max power charges each time because you will be shocked via the shield. I just recorded a quick act area to show how often I'm applying shock to myself. Seems about 75% of the time I'm reaching max power charges.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY_6dCQ9_oI
Dernière édition par _KaOtiC_, le 20 oct. 2017 03:04:51
Hey RicoKGB,

nice build, I just made the transition at 69 and it feels great.

Before starting I was thinking to try either Juggernaut with this build or Pathfinder with this build. Well, you see my decision :)

One question came up when comparing both builds: the mentioned optimal APS for Cyclone. Sacr0 says Cyclone hits twice per spin. When taking this into account, the APS from your spreadsheet could be halved - is that assumption correct?

update: forget it, I misread your spreadsheet, it considers Sacr0s statement. So 4,5-4,7 APS it is. Does Movement speed mess with Cyclone hits in any way?
Dernière édition par olsev_baiden, le 20 oct. 2017 03:19:06
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Hey RicoKGB,

nice build, I just made the transition at 69 and it feels great.

Before starting I was thinking to try either Juggernaut with this build or Pathfinder with this build. Well, you see my decision :)

One question came up when comparing both builds: the mentioned optimal APS for Cyclone. Sacr0 says Cyclone hits twice per spin. When taking this into account, the APS from your spreadsheet could be halved - is that assumption correct?

update: forget it, I misread your spreadsheet, it considers Sacr0s statement. So 4,5-4,7 APS it is. Does Movement speed mess with Cyclone hits in any way?


In fact Guys in the Sacr0s thread, including himself, took my spreadsheet as a reference. However theres also accuracy factor in play. Its more important for crit build. 4.5-4.7 ar should be with accuracy in mind. As jugg you have 92-95% accuracy so it can be almost ignored. However if u have like 80% acc than your current attack speed * 0.8 should result in 4.5-4.7 region. For crit build its even ar * 0.8 * 0.8 as acc for critical hit is being rolled twice in game engine.

Sacr0s build is very good and has definitely more dps. It is perhaps currently the most dps mjolner out there with under 30s Minotaur kill time (my build can do it under 40s but not under 30s). However it requires some experience and good flask management to get it right. I personally dont like builds that rely on flasks only, especially in terms of life leech.
Latest guides:
3.11 Loki's Rainbownuke:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2904155
3.7 CI CoC Discharge: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2605608
3.7 Juggernaut life Mjolner: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1846362
For me the jewels were the factor which led me more into your build. The ones needed for his build are quite pricy, while the ones for your build are very cheap.

May I ask, which flasks do you recommend? Besides squeezing in a Wise Oak (after balancing the resistances), I have only in mind to get "something" with suffix of staunching, of warding, of heat, of dousing (for RF). But the prefix and the kind of flask I'm not so sure about. Also like this I would not have space for a quicksilver with +movement speed which I'd like to keep to counter cyclone movement speed malus...
Dernière édition par olsev_baiden, le 20 oct. 2017 08:11:02
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For me the jewels were the factor which led me more into your build. The ones needed for his build are quite pricy, while the ones for your build are very cheap.

May I ask, which flasks do you recommend? Besides squeezing in a Wise Oak (after balancing the resistances), I have only in mind to get "something" with suffix of staunching, of warding, of heat, of dousing (for RF). But the prefix and the kind of flask I'm not so sure about. Also like this I would not have space for a quicksilver with +movement speed which I'd like to keep to counter cyclone movement speed malus...


Quicksilver is important for QoL and fast repositioning vs quick and mobile bosses, I wouldn drop it. You should have one flask with unfeeze (quicksilver being the best example), on flask with shock immunity (topaz works good with that), one ruby with bleed immunity or curse immunity, one flask with burn removal that you wont be using during the fight. All should be either perpetual or surgeons.
Latest guides:
3.11 Loki's Rainbownuke:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2904155
3.7 CI CoC Discharge: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2605608
3.7 Juggernaut life Mjolner: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1846362
Edit: Accidental spam
Dernière édition par Punknificent, le 20 oct. 2017 11:37:59
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RicoKGB a écrit :
Use whatever you like better, its your choice. But at least remove support gems that gives you nothing, like mpd.

Interesting, should I replace MPD with Ice Bite perhaps for the Frenzy charges? Wow that'd be killer.

Also, by curiosity, what level do you leave your CWDT at?
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Punknificent a écrit :
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RicoKGB a écrit :
Use whatever you like better, its your choice. But at least remove support gems that gives you nothing, like mpd.

Interesting, should I replace MPD with Ice Bite perhaps for the Frenzy charges? Wow that'd be killer.

Also, by curiosity, what level do you leave your CWDT at?


Low as I have bv linked to it together with ic and id.
Latest guides:
3.11 Loki's Rainbownuke:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2904155
3.7 CI CoC Discharge: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2605608
3.7 Juggernaut life Mjolner: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1846362
Yes, I was going to correct that as I recalled the BV use. But isn't your lvl19 Inc Duration useless because of lvl1 CWDT or it's not affected?

Ice Bite is pretty useless here, guess I'll replace it with Accuracy Support like you mentioned.

Edit: Using FA instead.
Dernière édition par Punknificent, le 20 oct. 2017 12:45:46
But MPD gave me increased damage to my Glacial Hammer, why do you say it gives nothing? I'm still pondering on that.

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