[PSA] GGG automatically scans and bans for certain English keywords in your in-game Whisper messages

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tempaccount9998 a écrit :

yeah better not use flasks at all and ignore all those +30% more dmg bonuses in clearspeed league, sounds good

Most mobs don't even need a damage boost to be one shot. The one flask I spam is quicksilver and I'm not even a meta build.

You are just so full of your self righteousness that you can't even fathom being wrong...

I can't pass judgement, because I simply don't know what really happened here.

What I do know is that GGG handles things fairly and equally to all players, from my own personal experience.

So based on that, I doubt this ban was anything other than deserved.

And if it wasn't, this is not the place for an appeal, nor does it help your case if you do send in an appeal in the future.

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tempaccount9998 a écrit :

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Docbp87 a écrit :

What are you even talking about? I know plenty of streamers that don't use macros, and do all content in hardcore... If you can only play the game with flask macros, then that just means you are terrible at the game. Apparently you are also terrible at remembering your throwaway acct passwords as well. Holy fuck... this thread.

are you saying pressing 12345 every 4 seconds takes skill? LUL

The opposite. Which reflects even more poorly on your game-play, if the simple task of cycling flasks is so much to handle that you needed a macro.

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BJWPDaemonSadi a écrit :

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Xaaz23 a écrit :

I love how everyone is bashing on the OP for using a macro to press his potions. Just about every stream I have ever looked at has the people doing the same thing. You can't tell me that they can fire off all their potions within a millisecond while moving their character and scratching their head with one hand. Hell, I'm sure half the clowns lecturing the OP do the same thing.

At this point they should just allow the macros and get it over with. They've opted for ridiculous clear speed over any other type of gameplay, may as well just go full shit mode.

A lot of us have one of those handy mouses (mice?) that have 6 or so buttons on one side. You map all of your flasks to them, leave one open for something that doesn't stop you and you can slam all pots with one finger move (usually within one frame) while moving and scratching your head with one hand. It also frees up your other hand for using moves and whatnot.

Just saying, it isn't all macro's, it is also buying gamer gear.

I have a mouse with 12 on the side. I still can't slam all potion at the exact same time. Stop the bullshit. Plenty of streamers have them all go off at the exact same time, every time. Ban one, ban them all. I don't give a fuck if they stream or not.

Do you farm and constantly run endgame content? If you do, then you know flasks are required either for survival, or to blow stuff up quickly, though for most builds its survival as not many builds can blow up things like Shaper or guardians fast enough to not require flasks for survival. running purity auras is not enough sadly, and they sure as hell should be.

Oh and its not illegal to use macros, which is the problem, eoither allow them, or dont.

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PleiadesBlackstar a écrit :

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MasterAxe a écrit :

The real problem is they designed the game to REQUIRE potions for endgame gameplay.


1)Want to max resists through gear? too bad it doesnt mean squat
2)want to run purity aura's? They help, but in reality still mean squat

Oh and not mention anything that builds around Life being a utility to stay alive, good luck, since thats where you will need to put all your nodes on the tree to get enough to survive, can forget about much offense unless you can find it between life nodes.

Make flasks a utility instead of a requirement, then they can ban all flask macro users plain and simple.

Or they ban them anyway since you know... it is against the rules.

Like I said a few posts back, if you are cramping your hands and having other wrist problems etc from using flasks, you are doing something wrong and need to learn computer physical health. You also aren't playing right if you have to spam all your flasks all the time really. You may argue that isn't true for some builds but I personally haven't played a single build that required flask spamming to survive, they are utility to me.

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MasterAxe a écrit :

Do you farm and constantly run endgame content? If you do, then you know flasks are required either for survival, or to blow stuff up quickly, though for most builds its survival as not many builds can blow up things like Shaper or guardians fast enough to not require flasks for survival. running purity auras is not enough sadly, and they sure as hell should be.

Oh and its not illegal to use macros, which is the problem, eoither allow them, or dont.

Depends what you are defining as end game farm. I've done up to t16 (not specifically this league but last league was just fine). This league, gf's blight abyssal cry doesn't even need flasks to clear screens at a time.

Could I farm quicker if I were spamming flasks and running a meta or close to meta build? Sure, but the meta of the build would be enough to farm at a decent pace without cramping my hand. Even if I desired to spam flasks, I iterate again, give your hand proper stretching and take breaks.
Streamers play all day, they get used to spamming flasks if that is their build go to. Doesn't mean you have to as well.

Rather than justifying macros, this is better to justify destroying the current CI and flask utility reliance meta. You don't need to do either to get into end game, but they make it easier no doubt.

And they have explicitly stated the types of macros that are and aren't allowed. So using one that is known to be not allowed is just being an idiot. If it is brand new, wait until GGG actually states if the macro is legal in the thread.

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tempaccount9998 a écrit :

i shouldn't be banned for "breaching ToU" if the ToU doesnt say anything about "cannot use macros that perform more than 1 server action"

The ToU specifically says you can NOT use any macros (unless with written approval of Grinding Gear Games).

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6. Restrictions: Under no circumstances, without the prior written approval of Grinding Gear Games, may you:

(c) Utilise any automated software or ‘bots’ in relation to your access or use of the Website, Materials or Services.

emphasis mine


Edit: So, you asked how new players should know - they only need to know that all macros are against the ToU. If they want to know if there are exceptions, they must ask GGG and get written approval (or for example, find one from an already made forum post).

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almostdead a écrit :

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tempaccount9998 a écrit :

i shouldn't be banned for "breaching ToU" if the ToU doesnt say anything about "cannot use macros that perform more than 1 server action"

The ToU specifically says you can NOT use any macros (unless with written approval of Grinding Gear Games).

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6. Restrictions: Under no circumstances, without the prior written approval of Grinding Gear Games, may you:

(c) Utilise any automated software or ‘bots’ in relation to your access or use of the Website, Materials or Services.

emphasis mine


Edit: So, you asked how new players should know - they only need to know that all macros are against the ToU. If they want to know if there are exceptions, they must ask GGG and get written approval (or for example, find one from an already made forum post).

And it makes complete sense to do so in that order. Who starts playing a game, sees an unofficial macro,script,tool, etc. and starts using it, then questions if it is legal post-use? Pretty much why I enjoy threads like this in general, somebody thinks their entitledness of not being caught until that point, "seeing" others use it without proof, etc. justifies getting pissed off for doing something they will even admit isn't allowed yet have to add a "but..." to their admission of guilt.

I sometimes think a multiple choice quiz based on ToU/ToS need to be required nowadays for games like this where cheating is not allowed. At the same time, I'd like to believe that anybody who deserves to play this game or others I enjoy should also have the rational mind to know these things aren't good for the game's or your own personal longevity in the game, hence they aren't allowed. They shouldn't have to read the ToS to understand that concept.

Just reported a player for using the same exact macro as I did, with video proof.

Now to see if GGG wants to permaban a guy with many supporter tags.

If he doesn't get permabanned without warning I should get unbanned too.