Cospri's Malice - Embrace it

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Xanarot a écrit :

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VKB a écrit :

This item is absolutely horrible with the HP buffs to monsters and will never see meta play ever.

Dualwielding this insists on you building heavy crit (600%+ chance) which is not a realistic way to build a hybrid caster crit build as you will most likely be forced to play shadow.

After all of that, the base crit chance is terrible and it would of been much better as a dagger, bow, or hell even a staff.

I can see this build falling off in T10 maps incredibly hard.

This build even when optimal will be extremely annoying to party with as it does not have a cooldown on the critical strike chance.

Also, GL getting accuracy on a sword with crit.

#2Cents

Non-phys, but lacks incentive to go cold. Yeah, 60% crit chance, but you can just get a >7% weapon and get the crit without the cold damage drawback.
Also very low crit chance, yet casts spell on crit. Also no reason to wield 2 of them due to new trigger mechanic.

If the 'melee crit' means any weapon, then i see a very small niche of this being a stat-stick offhand for mace/axe builds. Use a weapon that is actually usefull in a mainhand, and use this only for the trigger effect. But even then, the int requirement makes something like death's hand or mjolnir so much better looking, without gimping your build in desperately avoid phys damage nodes/gear.

I have no idea what either of you are talking about. This is clearly a dex mjolner made for something like an assassin. It has a lot of potential. It's just... not thematic with the other cospri's item. Why would anyone dual wield with it? Increased critical strikes wasn't nerfed for 2.4, which means literally any weapon can still be a crit weapon.

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Xanarot a écrit :

If the 'melee crit' means any weapon, then i see a very small niche of this being a stat-stick offhand for mace/axe builds considering the many, many issues and drawbacks this has.

It doesn't, effects like that are local as a rule.

I like the unique, though, better than Unleashed in any case and it will probably be cheap too.
8/10, will play.

I agree it has no mechanical connection to Will, they need a link item. Though I can see a thematic connection, they're battlemage items.

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VKB a écrit :

After all of that, the base crit chance is terrible and it would of been much better as a dagger, bow, or hell even a staff.

Depends if the %crit when chilled is global or effective on the weapon, and anyway with the new increased crit gem + ascendancy you can easily reach 90%+ on it. Playing Shadow or Scion would also boost the base crit of the spells.

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VKB a écrit :

I can see this build falling off in T10 maps incredibly hard.

i did a build with crit swords that used cyclone to cast spells, it worked for uber lab, and this sword was not out (it effectively free up 3 link on the cyclone)

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VKB a écrit :

This build even when optimal will be extremely annoying to party with as it does not have a cooldown on the critical strike chance.

The cooldown is 100ms (has written in the post)

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VKB a écrit :

This item is absolutely horrible with the HP buffs to monsters and will never see meta play ever.

You know nothing. I HOPE it doesn't get meta, so i can get my 2 swords for cheap.

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eragon1111 a écrit :

@LostArtz

Hate you bro... I had perfect build plans for this league... And this sword destroyed everything.. UGHHH...

I know exacly perfect build that would be so OP with this weapon... Im mean ITS TRASH PLZ SELL ME COPIES 5c EACH on the start of the league !!!

Can you please PM me at least :D I wanna make a good build with this

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HikaruYami a écrit :

I have no idea what either of you are talking about. This is clearly a dex mjolner made for something like an assassin. It has a lot of potential. It's just... not thematic with the other cospri's item. Why would anyone dual wield with it? Increased critical strikes wasn't nerfed for 2.4, which means literally any weapon can still be a crit weapon.

You mention exactly what we are talking about!

Its effectively a mjolnir, just... worse in every way.
Remove the phys damage, chain effect, and reduce procs from 'on hit' to 'on crit'. Tadaa, this weapon remains.

There's various drawbacks on why NOT to use it over various other weapons, but there is nothing that says 'use me cause..'.


Take the assassin for example. You'd be forced into cold damage, but near assassin is lightning weapon damage/pen node. The cold weapon damage/pen node is down at duelist. So besides all those drawbacks, you'd also need to go out of your way in terms of pathing for this thing to work half-decently.
With mjolnir you wouldnt care, as the damage is still physical so

I hope i'm wrong, but where with things like the other uniques (brass dome, cast-on-cast helmet) everybody was extatic.. this one mostly makes people go 'edit post: doesnt work', 'edit post: nvm, its on-crit mod is local' or 'we need the 3rd item'



Tough, maybe thats the trick? Make the unique useless to the point of vendor, but have a vendor recipe with will to make the actual unique show itself. But then, who'd want to get rid of their will... would have to deliver a pretty damn good unique.

Thanks for sharing the process, its a fun read.

The item looks wonderful, very flavorful and interesting mechanics. Its power level is hard to judge, but I feel like its powerful enough. However, I do think its a shame it lost the Chaos conversion, I love the flavor of Cold Void (Cold/Chaos) and it seemed to fit perfectly, but I guess you can't have it all. Will certainly try to build around it at some point.

I'm curious around its link with Cospri's Will. On a related note, although I loved the design, I always felt it was a shame that Cospri's Will was a pure Evasion chest, instead of EV/ES. The game needs more strong and interesting EV/ES chests. What are your thoughts about this? And are you considering designing more Cospri items (you seem to intend to)?

Oh dear, I just thought of a build. It uses Voll's Protector. It's an Assassin. It uses Discharge. It could use Voll's Devotion.

This could be pretty good.

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If you wanted to be even crazier you could use a CoC setup in your voll's on your trigger skill.

Oh man.

Nice one. It's not good enough damage to use it with a shield IMO. Probably will be the best as an off-hand weapon. Mayby dual-wield as well.

Idk how excacly Frost Wall works with other skills, but mayby you could use it for defence. Reave+Frost Wall or Sunder+Frost Wall?

Rip your item got nerfed before it was even released

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LostArtz a écrit :

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snakesolidx a écrit :

The crit chance is global or local ?

At this point I'm not 100% sure, it was intended to be both at different stages in the design process. It doesn't say global so I'm going with local for now.

I'm almost 100% sure it's global. #RIP_Scaeva