Cospri's Malice - Embrace it
This is for my own personal reference: I started writing this thread at 10:38pm and finished at 5:32am. From 5:32am until 6:21am was spent "proof-reading" and fixing grammar/spelling errors. Nearly eight hours were spent on this thread, three more than Cospri's Will.
Hello everyone, alongside the Atlas of Worlds update (patch 2.4.0) I'm happy to announce Cospri's Malice will be added to the core game. It is not exclusive to the Essence League, I just want to address this now as their was some confusion regarding Cospri's Will and Prophecy League since both used the word 'Council', but they were not related. In this thread I am going to over the considerations I made during the design process; skill choices, base item, passives, auras, uniques, and in general what items would synergize as a whole. Additionally how and if the end result should favour a particular section of the skill tree, life, or energy shield base based builds. When I going over these designs choices it's extremely likely I'll ramble on a bit so feel free to skip ahead if and when I get off topic. Additionally do not expect my grammar/spelling to be perfect. I'm attempting to write this thread before 12am hence the starting/ending times at the very top for my own personal reference. Just under two and a half hours sounds like a lot of time until you start going through months and emails and attempting to fully explain each and every choice you made and some that were never discussed with GGG during the design process. Finally before we get started --- I will try to section off specific topics so you can skip ahead and I will include a clearly marked tl;dr near the bottom so you can skip ahead and just see the mods without having to read this wall of text. It's also worth noting I may have managed to delete about the first months of emails/sent received, so once again I'll have to summarize a fair bit like I did with Cospri's Will. Backstory
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On June 2nd, 2016 following the reveal of Cospri's Will on May 25th I decided I wanted to design a follow-up Cospri's unique. One of the main contributing factors here was the amazing response I got to Cospri's Will. It's hard to describe how it felt to get that good of a response, the simplest way to put it was pure elation. Finding Inspiration - I'm not particularly original
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Something I need to stress from the very start is that your design is ultimately up to GGG's approval. If they don't like it, it won't be added to the game, additionally there are certain modifiers/mechanics that aren't possible (on Dodge, on Evade, negative Max Life mods can permanently brick CI characters), and don't bother bringing up a skill you don't already have access to because the answer is almost guaranteed to be no. RIP that idea. However, if your idea is to somehow modify an existing skill you may be able to work something out. Jorrhast's Blacksteel is the best example I can give of this. Unique's granting skills are always specific to GGG. Cospri's Malice much like Cospri's Will is the bastardization of a few different ideas.
Regardless of this fact I knew a CoC nerf was on the horizon and something had to be done! I could save CoC! ....? So it was decided, my weapon would be a Cold > Chaos Mjönler, because why not. The thing is though, you can't just create a unique that's essentially a copy of an already existing one. GGG likes to use the term 'design-space', basically the tl;dr here is they can be similar, but they also need to be distinctly different. That is to say they need to function differently. I can't just create a cold version of Lightning Coil for instance and say "but it's Cold themed so it's not the same thing" because it is unless you're willing to go one step further and add more modifiers to separate the two. Determining a Base Item
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I didn't want to use a Bow or Dagger base item as the two pre-existing Chaos conversion uniques do, so I started exploring the various base items. One of thing I took into consideration when doing this was how the Consuming Dark and Voltaxic Rift are used. One is used for Bow and Spells skills and cannot be used for Melee Skills, while the other can be used for Melee skills and Spells but not Bow Skills. I'd like to say I figured out a way to create a unique that can use Bow and Melee skills, but I'd be lying. That's one concept I'm going to leave up to GGG to figure out. So I ended up deciding Melee and Spells would have to work. Since Daggers were off the table I started going over the possible options. I knew I wanted the end result to encourage Critting without outright giving you all the tools needed to have a extremely high Crit chance. Basically I wanted you to devote yourself to Critting otherwise you'd end up with a noticeably weaker build. Staves looked to be a very likely candidate; they have reasonably good crit chances, and many have block implicits which is a nice extra bonus. Maces as a consideration were shortly live, ultimately I felt I would be encroaching on Cameria's Maul and Mjölner. Axes and various Two-Handed weapons were considered but I ended up going with Swords as the weapon type. Not just regular swords though, Thrusting Swords. You might be asking, what's the difference? In terms of what skills they can use, nothing. However, One-Hand Thrusting Swords have an additional +1 weapon Range over One-Handed Swords and they have much better implicits. I knew Cospri's Malice was to be a end-game item so I looked at the highest level required Thrusting Swords without repeating stats excluding implicits. What I mean by this is that Tempered Foils and Harpy Rapiers are essentially the same item, just with different Physical damage rolls, implicits, and requirements to be used. It's the Crit chance and attack speed I was focusing on. Don't question my logic, just trust me on this one. ✔✔✔ Anyway, I knew I needed to strike a balance between Crit chance, Multi from the implicits, and attack speed so I ended up choosing theJewelled Foil as my base item. I also chose the base item as it was extremely thematically appropriate with my initial set of suggested modifiers and idea for 3D art. As a funny side note, Jewelled Foils were not going to be base in the first email I sent. However, I changed this at the last second since Jewelled Foils are simply a superior base item for the end result. I was going to suggest Cospri's Malice use the Midnight Blade base. Skill and Unique Interactions
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Auras & Curses
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Cold spells in particular suffer from the lack of a good aura. That is to say, there isn't an aura that increases the amount of cold damage you deal. Hatred only adds Cold damage to Spells and Attacks that deal Physical damage. If you do not deal Physical damage this aura literally does nothing you. It's worthless. However, both Anger and Wrath increase the amount of damage you deal with Spells. Wrath gives a hefty More multiplier and Anger a generous amount of Added Damage to Spells. This presented somewhat of an issue. Let's be honest, you're not going to run a Consuming Dark build or Voltaxic build without your respective aura are you? Hell no. Those are some of your best damage sources available to those build types and the lack of a cold variant meant I need to compensate elsewhere to be on par with those builds. Herald of Ice would be a helpful tool in combating this difference in power levels, but ultimately I knew it wouldn't be enough. The only, and I use this term very loosely, useful aura for cold skills is Haste. Extra attack and cast speed, yay. On the bright side we at least have two decent options for scaling our damage via curses; Elemental Weakness and Frostbite. Aside from this you have your utility curses for generating charges, leech, etc. Attack and Spell Gems
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I'll be honest, I spent very little time going over the Attack gems. It was fairly apparent there are few good Melee Cold skills a Sword could use. The noteworthy ones are Frost Blades and Ice Crash. Because of this I knew I couldn't make the end result dependent on using a Cold Skill. Cold Spells on the other hand offered a lot of promise. They also directly inspired the key modifier on Cospri's Malice along with two additional modifiers which when combined greatly increase the potency of this weapon. There's even a very good reason to dual-wield them. Getting back to the Spells, I spent a few hours looking at a wide variety of Cold Spells and Skills not just in PoE but also in other games like League of Legends, DotA 2, Skyrim, Diablo 1/2/3, even Runescape (an old favorite of mine). Mmmmm Ice Barrage. Best god damn spell ever. Anyway it became fairly apparent game devs aren't particularly original when it comes to Cold related skills/abilities, and to be fair they are somewhat limited in their options. Most mainly go for some type of Chill (a slow), Freeze (holding in place), or a include a different debuff of sorts (i.e. reducing the rate at which something recharges or draining a stat). In PoE the most readily available 'gimmick' is chill. Vortex chills enemies within its AoE, Arctic Breathe and Arctic Amour spread Chilled Ground, Frost Bomb reduces affected enemies Life Regen and Cold Resistance, etc. So having a modifier that interactes or provides a benefit against Chilled enemies was my best option. Interactions with other Uniques
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Uniques and how they're used together are an extremely important part of PoEs success (IMO). They open a vast variety of new build options, same intended and expected, others eh not so much: example one and example two. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ One of the cool things that can be done with Cospri's Malice, although maybe not suggested, is converting 100% of your Lightning Damae to Cold with two Call of the Botherhood rings. Optionally you can use just one and have a 50/50 Cold & Lightning, that's up to you. Touch of Anguish provides some interesting benefits when combined with Cospri's Malice. From chaining skill an additional time, to increased Cold damage, there's definitely some potential for the two to be used together. Voidbringers have some syngertistic mods. If you're going to play an ES based build I would highly recommend these gloves. Everything but the 80% increased Mana cost of Skills is highly beneficial. For Life based characters Maligaro's, Shadows and Dust, or Facebreakers are your best friends. I'm not going to go over the full list of possibilities because frankly I simply don't have the time and the list will be out-dated in 24 hours when Atlas of Worlds releases. So embrace your inner snowflake. The Passive Tree & Ascendancies
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This where things start to get interesting. We're a Sword/Melee/Dual-Wield build and we need Crit, for spells too. Possibly AoE, possibly Life, possibly ES, and possibly Armour/Evasion. What I'm trying to say is, there's a wide variety of ways you can build around this item. As I hinted earlier Elemental Overload is even an option, potentially even Elemental Equilibrium. In short here's a cheat sheet for all of the passive nodes I'd consider relevant: passives (this excludes Life/ES nodes). For Ascendancies there's a lot of different options and I can assure you people will create combinations of Ascendancies and passives tree I haven't taken into consideration. However, with that being said your four most likely choices will be Elementalist, Assassin, Trickster, or the Ascendant. Each will offer you distinct benefits:
V1 - The Mjol-Chaos-Ner - I couldn't come up with a better name
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Now that I've gone over all that boring crap let's get into the interesting details. We've already covered that Cospri's Malice intends to encourage Critting, be a Cold > Chaos conversion unique, has certain synergizes/reasons to to Chill enemies, has a Trigger mechanic, is a One-Handed Thrusting Sword and has certainly powerful synergies when dual-wielded. Aside from that I frankly don't remember at this point so I'm just going to cut to the chase. Here is a rough version of the initial set of mods I suggested - unfortunately I don't have the exact list as I accidently deleted about the 1st months of emails, blah blah blah fml.
There may have been one or two additional mods, I honestly don't remember it's been nearly three months. As you might expect with Chaos conversion uniques being nerfed within the week this idea didn't go particularly well. It wasn't even that the item has Chaos conversion that was the problem, but rather as a whole it's trying to do to many things. Naturally of course, I went back and forth with Nick/Tom suggesting various ideas, but the main thing to take away here is that the Cold > Chaos was going to be dropped and we'd move forward with unified set of mods based around Cold Damage. V2 - Cospri's Malice Reimagined
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As I've already said Nick's suggestion was to move forward with a unique unified around Cold Damage thus foregoing all Chaos themed mods. I was very against this idea at first, however it grew on me and I agreed to move forward under that basis. I did have one major stipulation though, if I wasn't happy with the end result we'd be revisiting the idea of a Cold > Chaos conversion unique. Coming up with ideas for Cold themed mods was very difficult for me. Some ideas I had come up with included granting access to the Frozen Swarms (Roaming stackable AoE Degen) skill simply weren't an option. This is a monster specific skill granted by Avian Twin Talismans and there are three viarants; cold, lightning, and fire. Unfortunately as I said before if players already don't have access to a skill don't bother asking. Various other ideas were thrown around including but not limited to the following:
And the list goes on and on. Eventually we agreed upon a list that pleased both parties, but I had one extra important requirement for Cospri's Malice. I felt there needed be to something to help reign it in a bit. This mod would also serve as nod to Cospri's Will and it's Chaos themes. An Intelligence requirement - 257 to be specific. I'm not going to spoil the other modifiers until the final section, "V3 - The Finalized Version", so if you're not interesting in reading about the flavour text and art skip ahead to that section. Art & Flavour Text
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Art
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The artwork for Cospri's Malice was a case where I knew exactly what I wanted going into things. I had even gone so far as to specifically pick the Jewelled Foil base item as it played into my original idea of a Chaos themed unique and ultimately my plan for an Amethyst inspired blade. Something I took into consideration here is that Chaos Golems are made of what appears to be Amethyst. Additionally Amethyst rings are a thing. However, since the scope of modifiers changed so much throughout the design process I decided the artwork needed more of an icy look. Very chipped and rough. Additionally I requested purple hues be used as a homage to the Chaos mods of Cospri's Will. The final major thing I wanted was a Cross-Guard that looked similar to ivory (elephant horns). Why I'm not entirely sure, but I liked the idea and it stuck with me, so yeah. The final artwork ended up as below: Flavour Text
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Flavour text is an important part of every unique item. It sets the tone for an item and often tells an important story. I knew with Cospri's Malice I wanted to really go above and beyond what I'd done for Cospri's Will in this aspect. Funnily I ended up starting with some flavour text I intended to use on Cospri's Will. " While that accurately captured the the cold-blooded side I so desperately wanted to depict I just wasn't happy with it. It just didn't feel right. So back to the drawing board I went. Flavor text is something I've taken very seriously - online thesaurus became my best friend and worst enemy while trying to come up with something I was happy with. Literal hours were wasted trying to find different words to say the same thing just so the flavour text didn't come off and being too generic or corny. Eventually I came up with the following: " TL;DR - V3 - The Finalized Version
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Please note the 'Cast a Socketed Cold Skill on Melee Critical Strike' was a typo/error and has since been corrected to 'Cast a Socketed Cold Spell on Melee Critical Strike'. This image contains randomized values for the following mods:
As far as I know the value ranges for these mods are as follows:
Additionally the cool-down for triggered skills is 100ms and the order of socketed gems affects the order in which they are triggered. What this means is if you socket multiple Cold Spells they will cycle between being triggered start the top of the bottom working down. F.A.Q. - I'll get around to updating this later
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Used in the following Build(s) of the Week(s)
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Let the testing begin! Designing Cospri's Will: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1665314 Designing Cospri's Malice: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1717008 Iron Heart/Iron Fortress too! Dernière édition par LostArtz#3044, le 17 mai 2017 05:03:06 Dernier bump le 13 mars 2017 17:03:03
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Cool read.
Harvest sucks! But look at my decked out gear two weeks in!
Labyrinth salt farm miner. "But my build diversity" , "Game is too hard!" - Meta drone playing the same 1-3 builds for years. |
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Mjolnir cold edition.
" should be changed into: " To prevent confusion and bring it in line with the Mjölner affix. OR is it intended that other Melee Skills like Frost Blades can be socketed and autocast? I doubt that. Dernière édition par RedStreakyCat#4040, le 1 sept. 2016 09:43:02
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Very cool unique! The only little disappointment I have is that it doesn't seem to share a common theme with the other Cospri unique.
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" I'll get around to it eventually. Designing Cospri's Will: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1665314
Designing Cospri's Malice: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1717008 Iron Heart/Iron Fortress too! |
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Oh boy... what should I say?
I wet my pants. Great read here and an absolute amazing Unique! edit: " erm, CotB converts Lightning to Cold, not Cold to Lightning. you may fix that :) █▀▀▌ █▌█▀▀▀ █▀▀▌█▄░▌ █▀▀█ █▌▀▀▀█ █░░▌█▀▌▌ █▄▄▌ █▌█▄▄█ █▄▄▌█░█▌ Dernière édition par eviL_Bison#4015, le 1 sept. 2016 09:44:55
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It's a very interesting piece (Flavour text is beautiful) and I look forward to tinkering with the numbers, but I also have a question: With the "melee" requirement and the high weapon range, are you thinking there'll be a good range of delivery skills, or are you okay with this focusing on skills like Cyclone and Reave that play to high attack speeds and large areas of effect?
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" Whoops, LOL. Designing Cospri's Will: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1665314
Designing Cospri's Malice: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1717008 Iron Heart/Iron Fortress too! |
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Nice to know you got some inspiration from Runescape's Ice Barrage (Over a decade veteran of RS and loved the shit out of it, just couldn't care to play anymore with membership price hikes and didn't play enough to make the membership bonds worth it, using most of my GP made just to break even.)
Gives me a pretty good idea on what to try to combine the two Cospri's Uniques even though I am crap at theorycrafting. "It's all clearer now
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Nice unique!
The one thing i want to ask (in general for other items as well, but maybe you'll know) In the added damage roll, are the low and high ends rolled separately? I think it is right? so if you somehow, (somehow seriously) roll a max min and a min max, will it just say "Adds 100 cold damage"? Curiosity ;) |
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