So the main problem with SSF leagues is that...

Who is holding you back from spamming chance orbs on bows to get voltaxic??
ZiggyD is the Labyrinth of streamers, some like it, some dont, but GGG will make sure to push it down ur throat to make you like it
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antilev2 a écrit :
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Boem a écrit :
SSF never fails because of the droprates. It fails because the current demographic can't stand playing with a lack of power for extended periods before upgrading.

Which is exactly what you do with SSF vs trade, slow down the power progression curve.

I still remember fondly doing lvl 78 maps in a solo event with a 250 dps harbinger and 3500hp.

Stuff was hard and a single hit would kill you outright, kite or die, it was brilliant.

tl;dr people want the gears, they don't need the gears.

Peace,

-Boem-

Cool, so, melee is just no then


You can do melee, but it is definitely not easy mode. I am running 4k hp and using dual strike with Jack and a 240 dps claw. I have to move constantly to keep fortify up, manage flasks and make sure end charges stay up or I go boom. I am currently stuck at tier 8 maps, but that seems to be where I top out each league, anyways.
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Sexcalibure a écrit :
Who is holding you back from spamming chance orbs on bows to get voltaxic??



Do those still work? I have been spamming them on stuff and all I get are blues.
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FarmerTed a écrit :
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Sexcalibure a écrit :
Who is holding you back from spamming chance orbs on bows to get voltaxic??



Do those still work? I have been spamming them on stuff and all I get are blues.
Yes, they still work. It's a very rare thing but they still occur once in a while.
I've chanced all of these. Also chanced a grandmaster promenade map, a few of the coward's trial crypt maps and a few vaults of atziri maps. Also chanced a kongor undying rage with 6 sockets 5 link but I bricked it trying to vaal it.
Sound the dread alarm, through the primal body! Sound the reveille, to be or not to be. Rise! Stay the grand finale! Stay the reading of our swan song and epilogue. One drive to stay alive! Elementary, muster every fiber. Mobilize! Stay alive!
Dernière édition par viciousnugget#7026, le 2 mai 2016 à 11:41:35
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viciousnugget a écrit :
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FarmerTed a écrit :
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Sexcalibure a écrit :
Who is holding you back from spamming chance orbs on bows to get voltaxic??



Do those still work? I have been spamming them on stuff and all I get are blues.
Yes, they still work. It's a very rare thing but they still occur once in a while.
I've chanced all of these. Also chanced a grandmaster promenade map, a few of the coward's trial crypt maps and a few vaults of atziri maps. Also chanced a kongor undying rage with 6 sockets 5 link but I bricked it trying to vaal it.


Cool, guess I will keep spamming.
You would still be better off trading the chance orbs for chaos/exalt and buying the bow. You know how I know this? Otherwise people would be buying chance orbs and making bows to sell.
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Shagsbeard a écrit :
You would still be better off trading the chance orbs for chaos/exalt and buying the bow. You know how I know this? Otherwise people would be buying chance orbs and making bows to sell.
I have to agree with this. Even though I agree with it I still use my chance orbs trying to get uniques. It's a personal thing though. Skyforth are worth chancing no matter what.
Sound the dread alarm, through the primal body! Sound the reveille, to be or not to be. Rise! Stay the grand finale! Stay the reading of our swan song and epilogue. One drive to stay alive! Elementary, muster every fiber. Mobilize! Stay alive!
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Shagsbeard a écrit :
You would still be better off trading the chance orbs for chaos/exalt and buying the bow. You know how I know this? Otherwise people would be buying chance orbs and making bows to sell.


Yeah, but then I would have to live with myself and that dirty, dirty feeling of cheating. :P
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H4xolotl a écrit :
Droprates need to be buffed to compensate for not trading. Finding a voltaxic is worthless for the majority of players not building a voltaxic build.

Grossly simplified, if only 1/10th of non-currency valuables found are useful to your build, then droprates would need to be buffed 10 times just to compensate for trading.

Buffing droprates means that the league needs to be void, which scares players away.


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So the challenge facing GGG in a SSF league is creating a situation where player's don't need increased droprates, while also being able to cap their resists and have RELEVANT gear to clear endgame maps



Possible Solutions;

1) Not possible in PoE, but an interesting design concept from Diablo 3; Targeted loot. Useful loot relevant to your build drops more often. Impossible to implement in PoE since characters are far less restricted than D3, so loot targeting be too broad (How would the drop engine know whether your marauder wants melee weapons or a fire sceptre?)

2) Trading with NPCs. Rather than selling that Windripper for a few ex and using it to buy a wand, why not skip the middleman and just buy it from a NPC? GGG already showed they could price items with Cadiro. Why can't we sell uniques to Cadiro?

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SOLO SUPER-CADIRO LEAGUE


Cadiro is now added as an 9th master. Every daily his inventory refreshes, showing a new set of deals. BUT THE CATCH IS THAT PERANDUS CACHES NO LONGER SPAWN. The only way to get coins is to vendor uniques. Don't need that Voltaxic? Sell it to Cadiro for coins and buy a Bino's/Varunastra the next time he has one. Of course, Cadiro is a dirty flipper so you're going to lose some coins. But it's still more useful than having a useless voltaxic on your Reaver.




Droprates are fine eventhough they suck for the most part .

I mean even PoE is like this I kinda like the game but it blows anyways so what can you do about it .
R.I.P 4.B.
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Shagsbeard a écrit :
People who get really good items too soon never develop skills needed to play well. They think trading is needed because they never learned to play. They started out playing with exceptional gear, and now think exceptional gear is needed to play. It's not. Play without it for a while and you'll see that skill is much more important than gear is.



Couldn't have said it better myself. I'm glad I played this game solo self-found for the first like 9 months, including taking down my first atziri and clearing the top tier maps (at the time) as ssf. As a result, I know how to be 'good enough', even if i'm not blitzing through uber or tanking core maps. I know how to craft my own builds and take advantage of the countless tactical mechanics available. I know how to get by with simple, cheap weapons/equipment crafted via alt->aug->regal-> single craft (cuz you're not multimodding on a ssf budget, even if you manage to get elreon to 8 solo). I'm rather happy I didn't spoil myself.
Dernière édition par Shppy#6163, le 2 mai 2016 à 16:53:14

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