Mind over Matter, review and discussion

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dudiobugtron a écrit :

MoM has more uses than you outlined.

You can use it with Spirited Response to get free damage mitigation regardless of your mana regen.

As long as you don't need mana for casting, you can use it to keep unique mana and hybrid flasks running for their full duration. (Especially with Scold's bridle or some other self-damage.)
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/List_of_unique_flasks
Lavianga's Spirit, Zerphi's Last Breath and Divination Distillate are all great candidates.

never considered using MoM for depleting mana on purpose, clever :)

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But what happens when Mind over matter effectiveness climbs higher than 40%?
I have done quite a while ago 62% MoM effectiveness hierophant. 4.5k mana 3.1k life which in total sums up 7.6k hitpoints which is fairly large hitpoint pool which can tank pretty big hits.

Go life/ES hybrid for about 6000-8000 EHP and far stronger stun/chaos/freeze resistance.

I was not present during the glory of days of pre nerf EB/MOM but the current form seems miserably underwhelming.

mana-based MoM is great. synergizes very well with acrobatics if your build travels there.

yes, you'll need at least one spirited response jewel but that shouldnt be a problem

MoM Eb is the way to go, so you can reserve your full mana pool while keeping Mana usage and ES efficiency with life.

Or you can go BM EB MOM, it's perfectly fine.

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Geisalt a écrit :

Or you can go BM EB MOM, it's perfectly fine.

That works? That is super cool if it does.

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dudiobugtron a écrit :

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Geisalt a écrit :

Or you can go BM EB MOM, it's perfectly fine.

That works? That is super cool if it does.

yes, it works very well, if u can afford getting those keystones. Mostly because recharge ignores damage over time interruptions and interruptions via skill usage.
Now probably it is even better due essence worm ring, so u can prevent loosing life on using aura.

But in the end getting nearly 30% damage taken gained as mana i think is better, thou its very expensive. All u need is to have some more unreserved mana and it wont ever deplete.

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Andrius319 a écrit :

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dudiobugtron a écrit :

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Geisalt a écrit :

Or you can go BM EB MOM, it's perfectly fine.

That works? That is super cool if it does.

yes, it works very well, if u can afford getting those keystones. Mostly because recharge ignores damage over time interruptions and interruptions via skill usage.
Now probably it is even better due essence worm ring, so u can prevent loosing life on using aura.

But in the end getting nearly 30% damage taken gained as mana i think is better, thou its very expensive. All u need is to have some more unreserved mana and it wont ever deplete.

Yeah it's more than expensive. You need atleast 30% of the whole life pool as mana, otherwise if you take a big strike (3-4K) you cant use skills a short period of time. It can kill you. with 5K life, it's 1500 unreserved mana. Kinda difficult without Pledge of hand.

For this reason, EB MOM BM is perfect, ES scales better than mana and reachs 1500 easily.

And even if the ES breaks, you can still use skills, the mana cost sucks life instead with BM

It can also be played with a bit of evasion, to not get hit constantly, allowing Es recharge.



863 Es already, add an es/eva + life helmet then you get atleast 200 es. atleast 150 INT = 30% ES, some ES nodes... 50% ES ?

so 80% es, you already reachs 1913 ES! And BM gives 35% increased % hp so it's not too hard to get thoses 5K life.
Hybrid items are the way to go :) with 5K eva, 2K es and 5K life you should be fine.

The big downside is the number of nodes needed to travel in the tree and the kind of offensive skills that you will use.


Thoo the real unique item for this build is

In my signature there is a build for BM EB MoM, if u wanna see more. I used it 2 leagues ago and this league. Works pretty well.