Mjolner; The 11+ link CoC item that DOSENT EVEN NEED CRIT

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lolbam a écrit :

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Sammael a écrit :

no wonder the item is valued at 55 exalts

...at softcore

i sold mine on ambush for 35exa did i undersell it? :(

you profited 3x current price

right now on ambush its 12ex

Nope, your math is wrong. It's a 2.5L item.

Attack Skill - Cast on Hit - Spell - Spell - Spell/Penetration

But, instead of using a weapon with 2 attacks per second, you're using a weapon with 1 attack per second. Ergo, 2.5 link.

Now lets take the 6L. It has to be an attack. What do we link to it? No matter what it is, its multipliers will be half as effective. If it's physical% scaling, the base damage is halved (and that's being generous). If it's flat elemental or cast on critical, your attack speed AND critical chance are halved, so your damage is quartered.

If there were some way to hedge around having to deal with the weapon's across the board low parameters, like Explosive Arrow does, there might be something worth salvaging. But your six link is going to be as strong as a 2 link, and you're left with a 4.5 link.

You might as well have Curse on Hit + Conductivity linked to Spectral Throw or something, for all the good your attack will be. No, for any value add out of this you need to take advantage of the +1 chain.

It's just a novelty weapon you can use with GMP + LMP + Multistrike + Faster Attacks Lightning Strike that will utterly devastate seething masses of monsters in one button click. Which is fun. Which is great. But that doesn't kill Piety or Empress Four Boob as well as a decent rare. I guess you can have Lifegain On Hit for a ton of life leech against trash, but really who has a hard time killing white mobs to the point of having your only 5+ link be weak against bosses.

(I'm just kidding. Chain is way more hits than LMP. 7 * 4 is bigger than 9 * 2 by 55%. If 112 arcs a second can't cut it while fighting hordes of fleas, well..)

Tbh this Mjolner is enough to make me want to give up on this game.

It shows that the devs don't care in the slightest bit about game balance, and also as usual the most vastly OP items and builds they enable are only available to the super rich flippers and power traders, not to people that merely try to play the game for fun.

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bhavv a écrit :

Tbh this Mjolner is enough to make me want to give up on this game.

It shows that the devs don't care in the slightest bit about game balance, and also as usual the most vastly OP items and builds they enable are only available to the super rich flippers and power traders, not to people that merely try to play the game for fun.

Mjolner is like 10ex on ambush right now (I just got one for 7 a couple hours ago and saw at least 2 more going for 8.) That's like a week of dom farming only playing a couple hours a day. If you truly played the game "for fun" you wouldn't care what other builds are op or how op an item is.

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LimitedRooster a écrit :

Nope, your math is wrong. It's a 2.5L item.

Attack Skill - Cast on Hit - Spell - Spell - Spell/Penetration

But, instead of using a weapon with 2 attacks per second, you're using a weapon with 1 attack per second. Ergo, 2.5 link.

now that some stupid math... in your (not correct) math, 5 skill that link together (there are way more than 5), if they used by weapon slower by half, become 2.5l?
than 6l with flameblast, which take few sec to start... is actually 0.006l? wow such brilliant..
p.s. correct math is : 6l on armor + cast on hit (way better than OP cast on crit) + 3l = 10l

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LimitedRooster a écrit :

Now lets take the 6L. It has to be an attack. What do we link to it? No matter what it is, its multipliers will be half as effective. If it's physical% scaling, the base damage is halved (and that's being generous). If it's flat elemental or cast on critical, your attack speed AND critical chance are halved, so your damage is quartered.

If there were some way to hedge around having to deal with the weapon's across the board low parameters, like Explosive Arrow does, there might be something worth salvaging. But your six link is going to be as strong as a 2 link, and you're left with a 4.5 link.

again.... totally nonsense , u use this hammer not for its phys dmg... but for high procss of spells, use lightning strike + GMP + chain + multistrike + faster attack, and i promise u, that u activate more spells than the faster COC dagger...
add life on hit to those 5, and become practiclly immortal .

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LimitedRooster a écrit :

It's just a novelty weapon you can use with GMP + LMP + Multistrike + Faster Attacks Lightning Strike that will utterly devastate seething masses of monsters in one button click. Which is fun. Which is great. But that doesn't kill Piety or Empress Four Boob as well as a decent rare. I guess you can have Lifegain On Hit for a ton of life leech against trash, but really who has a hard time killing white mobs to the point of having your only 5+ link be weak against bosses.

again.. look at what i wrote

For anyone that doesn't think the item is busted:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGIRXWCHASE

It's an extreme case, but the non-RF version is much tankier and more generally viable.

Op is right. I pooped myself the moment I saw the item. It's CoC without the Crit node investment and streakiness. The CoC + Spell + Supports for Spell are moved off item. You can run any 6l you want to make it even more effective. It's limited to lightning spells, sure, but the new Arc answers that call just fine.

If Mjolnir doesn't go legacy I'll eat my shorts.

Honestly? It's beautiful. Far more powerful than I want any unique to be, but beautiful. Other builds can reach that type of clear speed, but generally rely on perfect rares or something like DD + Ele Prolif (should be slower than that boss was). It's not always fair to try and make something look OP by combining it with something like Shavs which is a known retarded unique, but it does show that the unique itself can be as godly as a perfect rare if you build around it. The difference being that it looks a hell of a lot prettier.

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Terrornoid a écrit :

For anyone that doesn't think the item is busted:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGIRXWCHASE

It's an extreme case, but the non-RF version is much tankier and more generally viable.

Yeah even with COE & Shav I saw a build that has equal clear speed as COC EK barrage and even less than chain crit Windripper. The item is busted ? Really ?

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maqe a écrit :

Mjolner is like 10ex on ambush right now (I just got one for 7 a couple hours ago and saw at least 2 more going for 8.) That's like a week of dom farming only playing a couple hours a day. If you truly played the game "for fun" you wouldn't care what other builds are op or how op an item is.

He's a notorious troll. I would disregard anything he says really.