Steamchart - doesnt look too healthy?! :/

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Lord_Kamster a écrit :

It was only a matter of time this thread was hidden away in the feedback forum.

Chris and co. are aware of the issues, else they wouldn't be nerfing RHOAS of all things in normal mode. They are well aware that the biggest dropoff in Steam numbers happened with people who didn't even stick around to see Brutus. Heck, they didn't even reach the steep and unforgiving "I quit this shit" curve of act 2/3 Cruel.

Anyway, the numbers for Steam are definitely worrying, because we just hit bottom tier on par with the end of last league, when no one wanted to play and was just waiting for the new league. And we still got over two months to go. Definitely not good, since it means that the players leaving are not the casuals but the regulars.

I think we need to concentrate on changing the current grindy/no-life mechanics instead of just adding new stuff. You need to retain players' interest and reward them in some way. I'll take increased drops with a bit of inflation over the status quo any day of the week.

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Xavderion a écrit :

You forget that most people don't like to mindnumbingly grind for 16 weeks straight :P They come and go, which doesn't really matter much. This isn't a subscription based MMO after all.

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TheAnuhart a écrit :

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Xavderion a écrit :

You forget that most people don't like to mindnumbingly grind for 16 weeks straight :P They come and go, which doesn't really matter much. This isn't a subscription based MMO after all.

That's right, it's not.
It's a pyramid economy shopping game, it matters a fuck ton that people come and go. People come, people go. They go either because they were successful and got bored, were unsuccessful and got frustrated or because shopping =/= aRPG to them. There isn't an infinite number to replace them, a pyramid wont exist as only a top.

The changes GGG are making to better retention are futile, it's the model itself which will always fail at retention. To make matters worse, the players that don't give a flying fuck about economy, who could never quit through 'too much too soon' nor because unsuccessful bottom feeder, the self-found, the longevity players, leave also because stupid trade gated content and crafting.


2 play styles we can split to 3 player types.
The model succeeds at retaining none of them and it ain't because Hailrake, tutorials, checkpoints and rhoas.

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The game is balanced around botting and RMT.

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gpofarm a écrit :

Since I'm on a roll,

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The game is balanced around botting and RMT.

I agree with that and please note that you can't bot in steam.

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sidtherat a écrit :

we will have a slight stop of this trend during May 1st-4th 'holidays' when in large parts of the world people/students have time off.

i managed to buy Doon Ch. mace for 5 chaos and it seems it had been listed on poexyz with that price for several days.. cmon this is 3exalts below 'regular' price. in the good days such deals lasted 10 minutes.