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IceM a écrit :
Like a ninja nerf is not even possible? Just Like a bunch of sheep. D3 did it all the time, what do both games have in common? They care about the fucking economy more then players satisfaction.
economy = player satisfaction, you just dont know/understand it
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Posté parLSN#3878le 13 déc. 2013 à 09:50:44
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Nightmare123 a écrit :
Oh and for the guy saying "they have no reason to nerf". Of course they do. 1) if they think to many items are flooding the economy and 2) They are seeing declining sales at there item stores(oh yes that's GGG doing the item store spamming)because, the horror, people are actually finding useful items in the game.
You actually believe GGG runs the RMT sites? .... lol
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Posté parMikekowa#1708le 13 déc. 2013 à 09:56:00
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Nightmare123 a écrit :
Oh and by the way who are you that I NEED to prove anything too? This a forum and post where people express their views. I don't have to prove anything to you. These posts are directed to GGG anyway, not some fanboi. If you don't like what people are saying about your baby, don't read it.
Ther's a difference between me and you:
You're stating that drops are not random, you're accusing GGG to "manouver" drops. Usually when you accuse someone you have to provide some real proofs don't you think?
I'm just saying that drops are random, without accusing anyone.
By your logic, now if i call 10 other players and tell them to write "Nightmare123 uses bots" on these forums we would be right and you would be banned!!!
For the third time: provide proofs or your conspiracy thesis is wrong
Do you really not understand that drops are NOT random? You do know that if GGG wanted they could make every drop a unique or every drop a white item. You do understand they control the loot drops right? Now once they set on the drop rate, then the random factor takes over but that's ONLY after GGG decides what that will be.
Plus saying I am "accusing" them is silly. I am not bringing charges against them. I am not suing them. I am expressing my view on the forums which is my right. IT's funny that GGG doesn't have an issue with me expressing my view on here but for some reason you do.
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Posté parNightmare123#4979le 13 déc. 2013 à 11:39:03
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Does anyone actually have any data to back up their argument here? If you don't have complete data on all your drops prior to the patch, and then after, you're not able to make any statistical analysis on anything. All I see is sensible people asking for proof, and for a reason for GGG to do such a thing, and the response is "NAHNAHNAH my drops are bad so CLEARLY I've been wronged".
I know you're gonna hate hearing this, but you're wrong. It's 100% confirmation bias and anything outside of that is blame-shifting to anything but randomness.
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Posté parmidlevel#6766le 13 déc. 2013 à 12:43:53
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midlevel a écrit :
Does anyone actually have any data to back up their argument here? If you don't have complete data on all your drops prior to the patch, and then after, you're not able to make any statistical analysis on anything. All I see is sensible people asking for proof, and for a reason for GGG to do such a thing, and the response is "NAHNAHNAH my drops are bad so CLEARLY I've been wronged".
I know you're gonna hate hearing this, but you're wrong. It's 100% confirmation bias and anything outside of that is blame-shifting to anything but randomness.
I know you're gonna hate hearing this, but if you believe nothing has changed you must have statistical analysis to back up your claim, right?
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Posté parfailpatrol#6659le 13 déc. 2013 à 13:08:20
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midlevel a écrit :
Does anyone actually have any data to back up their argument here? If you don't have complete data on all your drops prior to the patch, and then after, you're not able to make any statistical analysis on anything. All I see is sensible people asking for proof, and for a reason for GGG to do such a thing, and the response is "NAHNAHNAH my drops are bad so CLEARLY I've been wronged".
I know you're gonna hate hearing this, but you're wrong. It's 100% confirmation bias and anything outside of that is blame-shifting to anything but randomness.
How about your own two eyes. I mean the game has been out for quite a while. Most people have a set routine they run and know what they get out of it. I get random and bad streaks, but this isn't a slight drop, this is a huge drop. I went back and did another 10 runs on Dominus and Piety.
That is now 45 straight runs on both (90 total) without a single unique drop. Now that is one hell of a random break if nothing has changed.
Even if nothing has changed, it was GGG themselves that said they were BUFFING non map bosses and making only a select few high uniques map only. They wanted people to actually do boss runs and be REWARDED. 90 runs without a single unique doesn't fit my definition of "worthwhile". If your experience something better, great for you.
Dernière édition par Nightmare123#4979, le 13 déc. 2013 à 13:20:15
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Posté parNightmare123#4979le 13 déc. 2013 à 13:17:00
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Nightmare123 a écrit :
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midlevel a écrit :
Does anyone actually have any data to back up their argument here? If you don't have complete data on all your drops prior to the patch, and then after, you're not able to make any statistical analysis on anything. All I see is sensible people asking for proof, and for a reason for GGG to do such a thing, and the response is "NAHNAHNAH my drops are bad so CLEARLY I've been wronged".
I know you're gonna hate hearing this, but you're wrong. It's 100% confirmation bias and anything outside of that is blame-shifting to anything but randomness.
How about your own two eyes. I mean the game has been out for quite a while. Most people have a set routine they run and know what they get out of it. I get random and bad streaks, but this isn't a slight drop, this is a huge drop. I went back and did another 10 runs on Dominus and Piety.
That is now 45 straight runs on both (90 total) without a single unique drop. Now that is one hell of a random break if nothing has changed.
Even if nothing has changed, it was GGG themselves that said they were BUFFING non map bosses and making only a select few high uniques map only. They wanted people to actually do boss runs and be REWARDED. 90 runs without a single unique doesn't fit my definition of "worthwhile". If your experience something better, great for you.
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THIS! Run many Dominus and map bosses and not a single unique droped, after soooooo many runs after patch.
+1 Dude.
Even if we dont have info, its 100% ninja nerf.
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Posté parTreeOfDead#4438le 13 déc. 2013 à 13:29:02
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Nightmare123 a écrit :
There is no doubt they nerfed the drops on the non-map bosses.
Good. Maybe they are starting to fix risk/reward after all.
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Posté parknac84#3886le 13 déc. 2013 à 13:39:44
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Nightmare123 a écrit :
There is no doubt they nerfed the drops on the non-map bosses.
Good. Maybe they are starting to fix risk/reward after all.
One can only hope.
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Posté parSL4Y3R#7487le 13 déc. 2013 à 13:43:29Banni(e)
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midlevel a écrit :
Does anyone actually have any data to back up their argument here? If you don't have complete data on all your drops prior to the patch, and then after, you're not able to make any statistical analysis on anything. All I see is sensible people asking for proof, and for a reason for GGG to do such a thing, and the response is "NAHNAHNAH my drops are bad so CLEARLY I've been wronged".
I know you're gonna hate hearing this, but you're wrong. It's 100% confirmation bias and anything outside of that is blame-shifting to anything but randomness.
I know you're gonna hate hearing this, but if you believe nothing has changed you must have statistical analysis to back up your claim, right?
You're the ones making the claim, the onus is on you to provide proof. You only have anecdotal evidence, as all of us do, but apparently yours trumps anyone else who can offer up an opinion.
But whatever, you guys just want to circlejerk on a literally non-existent issue, all the power to you. Hope you have fun, perhaps someday you'll stop looking to blame anything but reality.
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Posté parmidlevel#6766le 13 déc. 2013 à 14:42:13
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