Why no one use explosive arrow with something else than a quill Rain?

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Papyrazzi a écrit :
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double attack speed is +100% dps.


Well, not really, since a large portion of the dps come from a well proliferate burn and you will always have the 1 s explosion delay.

3 attack/s mean 1.66s to land 5 fuses + 1s for them to explode so roughtly 2.66s
2 attack/s mean 2.5s to land 5 fuses +1s -> 3.5s

overall 31% faster. But as you say +2 bow gems means roughtly 25% more damage which will affect the burn.

But for me the most important is that you can get something else than the fast attack speed of the quill rain on your bow, for exemple physical damage which, even if it doesnt affect the explosion, will affect the initial hit, and for exemple could help you leech mana on physical damage. Also it give you the possibility to use other bow skill against highly resistant mobs.

Well, i guess i underestimate a lot the projectile speed of the Quill Rain.



my only problem with your math is 3 attacks per second is not double of 2 attacks per second.

If we go with the assumption we end up with:

4 a/s = 1.25 seconds for 5 stacks + 1s = 2.25 seconds
2 a/s = 2.5 seconds for 5 stacks + 1 s = 3.5 seconds

~55% faster, still not double though due to the fixed 1 second delay.
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Dernière édition par LostForm#2813, le 19 juin 2013 à 11:32:08
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my only problem with your math is 3 attacks per second is not double of 2 attacks per second.


Well, you also don't consider the potentiel bonus AS you can have on a bow.


with +25% as a thicket can reach 1.9375 attacks/s, quill rain has 3.11. My math was approximate but not that wrong.
I'm going to chime in on one more thing: People fail to remember that IAS has diminishing returns when paired with Explosive Arrow. After a certain point, stacking fuses any faster does not result in more DPS, just more control.

At that point (which is entirely doable with a +3/27% Thicket) since you can get IAS from Rings, Quivers, Gloves and Passives, a +3 would yield substantially more marginal benefit over a Quill Rain.

Something to think about.
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Papyrazzi a écrit :
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my only problem with your math is 3 attacks per second is not double of 2 attacks per second.


Well, you also don't consider the potentiel bonus AS you can have on a bow.


with +25% as a thicket can reach 1.9375 attacks/s, quill rain has 3.11. My math was approximate but not that wrong.


I wasnt disagreeing with you. I was just making your debunking math more inline with the assumption put forward "double attack speed is +100% dps." :)
Hey...is this thing on?
Dernière édition par LostForm#2813, le 19 juin 2013 à 12:03:03
Because of how Explosive Arrow works. Just purely the time adding stacks.
Because EA's damage is overkill as fuck with burning, I just want to apply it faster.
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EA +PB +chin sol is madness but there is a faction here on the forums who always deny it

the reason why they want to deny it is to keep GGG away from this build

and im ok with it i want my PB chin sol EA to never be nerf`d

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