How do ppl get 20k armour/dps?

Added Fire and Hatred scale off of the damage you put out. So if you deal 40% less physical damage, there is 40% less damage to be added as cold or fire. that's why ele cleave is so strong, it bypasses that "less physical" modifier and does lots of ele damage.

the flat added elemental modifiers could be better since they are unaffected by your physical damage. Weapon Element Damage support gem is also RIDICULOUSLY strong compared to the Melee Physical Damage gem.

probably safest and best to go straight ele damage if you wanna stick with cleave

not sure about your DW block question

I hope all that helps

ppl saying physical cleave cant reach hight dps are wrong.i have a lvl 88 DW ranger and he is currently at 17k5 dps with 5L and is weapon isnt even the top.with 6L i would be reaching 20k and a bit more with better weapon.i could push it even higther with better dps ring mods.im not even using a single % aura so in grp my overall stats jump by a lot.im planning to try soul taker if i can grab one and it might give me een higther dps.i also dont have any problem dealing with reflect since i have hight dmg reduction+life regen/leech.

physical cleave can still be pretty damn good but yea,overall ele or hybride cleave can usualy eacheive higther dps easier and invest less nods in offence and more in defence.

grrr...double poste

20k non-flasked armor isn't too hard but you have to spend more points than what I'd feel comfortable with.

20k melee splash dps is not hard to get if you have a soul taker axe, you can accomplish that with less than 10 points on offense.

Cleave damage will always be lolworthy to me because of it's tiny ass aoe with conc effect, while you're cleaving 2-3 guys with your 25k dps, melee splash hits 20+ packs for 20k dps.

For me: iron reflexes + ev gear for armor, facebreaker for dps

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Maybe modify your tree like this? Less resists, but more life. You need to get the dex/resists/leech from gear though. And I'm not sure if you really need that much aura reservation right now.

Doesn't help you much in terms of armor, but you'll be set on hp so you can focus on dps passives from here on out. Most of your armor gains will be from finding a higher rated chest piece; I don't see much armor for you in passives unless you go IR or use a shield.

And get a 6L. That always helps. Add concEff to your cleave and dps should shoot up. You need to compensate for radius somehow, either with radius passives, IncrAoE gem, or Carcass.

What a stupid question.

How do you get more dps and more armor? By upgrading your gear or spending more points in those areas.....really you had to ask?

Thx for the help.

One more thing that's not clear to me with cleave: Ok, on lvl1 it gives -40% phys dmg, ok. But at later lvls it actually gives +% to phys dmg, so i don't see why it's still inferior?

Currently i'm thinking of making an aurauder kind of char, with all auras except discipline and clarity, going mainly ele, with some phys notables:



Inner force for auras, block for some extra defense.