How do ppl get 20k armour/dps?

Hy!

I keep seeing these posts with "i died with 20k armour" "Even my 10k dps isn't enough" and so on.
I'm playing a melee mara now, and nowhere near that at lvl 67. Ok i guess 20k dps isn't with melee, but i'm playing pure armour def, and i'm around 2k. with 2.2k HP and 1.5k dps cleave

Can someone tell me what am I missing, or what i'm doing wrong?

My gear:
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My spec:
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http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgEAAecCcQSzBS0TWxQgGS4aVRznIPAn7SkuNro26DwtPfxE50d-TP9N41BHUFBT31RJVdZXDVhjWK9Y218_YEthIWSjZOdlTWWnajtuaXC7cql07XgNeu97jHy4fNmE2YTvhymMz5WbmSubg57NogCnMKgYqW6rxaxZrKqvbLT5ud29gb6nwA_E9sWKxtjSIdJN1I_ZYeJh51LvDvAf8i_ynPPd9kj22ve-_o8=


Thx
IGN: Maelifica
Dernière édition par Daxora#1391, le 6 juin 2013 à 15:47:49
Many things are wrong with the build and your equipment.

The cleave build works with elemental. You aren't even specked elemental.

Physical cleave is weak.


Your build is all over the place. Heck, it even has a point specked in staves (wtf)

Here, use this guide to give you an example.

It's dual wield cleave elemental

http://www.exilepro.com/builds/templar/517-templar-elemental-cleave-dual-wield-offensive-tank

I assume you're dual wield since you've shown two weapons.

Level 67 with 1.5k damage that is not good.

Dernière édition par Warmey#4835, le 6 juin 2013 à 20:14:57
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Warmey a écrit :



Your build is all over the place. Heck, it even has a point specked in staves (wtf)




There's no "helping" people like this.
that is pretty mean u guys...

why not just help? If you are badass enough to make fun of someone, you must have some insight that could/would help.

@OP

sadly I too am looking to build a marauder and know nothing about melee or I would certainly help you!
Dernière édition par sempuken#7215, le 6 juin 2013 à 23:58:54
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgEABLMOrRRNFHUVIBkuGYUaOBpsJKon7SlPKaUqTSzpLdIyiTWSNuk62DwFPC0_J0bXSn1N2E7IUFBUSVXGVvpX4lhjWfNfP1-qY6dnoGe9bPZuqnKpc-F0QXflerh82YKbguSDOId2i4yMdozPj0aQEZBVm6Gdrp_fogCnCKeErKquk7c-uJO53cAaxPbGrsbYz2XQ0NN-1I_dDd1G4XPjauQi51LsOO0g7g7ub-8O73zwH_Iv8932SPeI_E78xQ==

I'll have Innerforce at 81.

12k dps, 3 aps. I don't claim that's even all that good as there's players at 25k dps much better at the bullshyte economy, flipping and ripping people off to get rich, so take it as you will. But at 1500 dps, you're doing something terribly terribly wrong.
Dernière édition par DamageIncorporated#7815, le 7 juin 2013 à 03:19:09
Basically you can choose to do physical damage or elemental damage , or even a bit of both worlds.
Just try to have weapons with %attack speed, elemental damage and high physical damage % (if you go phys or both).
On rings look for +res all +lightning damage %attackspeed
On the gloves also look for %attack speed and possibly some 2-20 damage of whatever type (lightning is always better) .
Try to get 4 link on most of your gear and start to use some support around here or there.
U should probably also save some money to eventually buy a cheap 5link to support cleave.
Also don't level cleave over level 5 if you are going elemental cause it just increase mana cost in later lavels for you.
Hope it helped , if you have some question , feel free to ask , we are not all nerdy elitist who don't just give a crap.
Thanks for the tips guys!

The idea was to go dual wield phys cleave. But as it seems, it's not a viable option.
In DamageIncorporated's spec i see around 140% extra dmg, in my spec i have 144% phys dmg, yet he has 10 times the dps, and it can't all be only the weapons. Can it?
Would someone explain to me, why is ele dmg so much better?

I know my gear is crappy, but i thought it will increase by time, but the full respec would be a good time to correct mistakes in the tree.
Think i might just switch to ele cleave, and try to come up with some better spec.
IGN: Maelifica
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Daxora a écrit :
Thanks for the tips guys!


In DamageIncorporated's spec i see around 140% extra dmg, in my spec i have 144% phys dmg, yet he has 10 times the dps, and it can't all be only the weapons. Can it?
Would someone explain to me, why is ele dmg so much better?


gear

The axe I'm particularly proud of, but could be faster. The sword I havnt found an upgrade for cuz the APS + the half decent ele dmg make something slightly slower with more ele dmg a sideways upgrade, and I'm not rich.

Also, ele dmg is even better than the character sheet shows. With ele dmg and cleave, you apply the eme dmg with both weapons, twice. It IS better.
Like you, I rolled a pure phys cleaver. Best I did was almost same character sheet dps (11k) but without the hidden mechanic of ele dmg, and cleave.
10-15k is fairly easily achievable. 25-27k is very hard. Seems to me only the flippers, trade channel lurkers, and pay-to-win players reach that.
Nice weapons.
I've just noticed that wiki says cleave only reduced dual wield phys dmg by 40%, but not ele dmg. It explains quite some things, so far i thought ele is only better cos of the dmg vs armour mechanics.
So practicly your 2 weapons both do their full ele dmg, but only 40% of phys dmg of both. Right?

So i was thinking, since i'll use Hatred and added fire dmg gem, maybe getting most of the ele dmg nodes, and grabbing some of the notable phys dmg nodes might work. Or should i just abandon the idea of phys dmg completely?

Another thing: As dual wielder should i get some block nodes? Namely Dervish in duelist area just for a litte extra defense?

Ps.: I know i could just copy paste one of the specs linked, but i like to understand what i'm doing :)

My Tree idea at the moment:
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http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgEAxthYYz38fLgpLlBQjM_2SF8_VEnnUu8Oud3yL9SPGS4n7fPdrKpyqXzZWfPAGpBVp4QaOOw4V-IyiXflBLMUTaIA8B8CcbT5gzjvfDwFn9-LjOFz7SBG19lhVw3SIZ7NpzB25xQgUEcB5zboWK9wu_baxPYTW2TnVdZGaeJhlZtlp2SjGlVhIYTvdO1672BLBS2bg1PfWNuE2WVNR36rxW5pvqfSTcAP974=
IGN: Maelifica
LOL get 1500 chest and 1500k unique and get 300% armor nods, bam you get 9000 armor, hope it help :>
IGN: SMALLDUCK

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