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Knuddelbearli a écrit :

what is the best colour for Skin of the Lord for spectres and zombies?
and it is possible to use SO and zombies in Lord or only Primal Crushclaw and Zombies?


And after the last patch now spectre bank works?

If you want to run SOs you ditch zombies all together. We only need zombies for 2 reasons. Something to procc feeding Frenzy and to get +10 minions for our Carrion Golems to get max buff effect as they get 5% dmg per minion we have.

Since Spectres run Phantasms we have no use of Zombies at all. Packing SOs, Phantasms and Zombies in the same chest would just be plain bad so just ditch the zombies.

I'm not 100% sure what to do with Feeding Frenzy at that point. Either you put it in the chest to or we decide to 3-link or Animate Guardian with it in the shield.

I'm leaning towards having AG linked with Minion Life and Feeding Frenzy in shield, skitterbots + Hatred in boots.

This leaves 5 links for weapon and Ring.
In weapon you put Offering, BV and an Aura like Determination.
In rings you put Molten Shell and Convocation. If you want to run Tempest Shield, you ditch Convocation.

The other option is to run Feeding Frenzy in chest with SOs and Phantasms. This opens up 2 more socket slots which can be used for various utility things like Increased Duration for Molten Shell and Enduring Cry for Endurance Charges et.c.

Best Colors for SOs in chest still is 4blue-2green.

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Alvarohur a écrit :

I finnaly got a 3b-3r EE skin of the lords. What sould I upgrade next?
I know my wand is only +1, but if I change it I lost EE (damage to spells) because I cant craft on the rings without uncap resistances or lost dexterity.

I have 15ex to spend, but i dont know where to start to boost my dps


My gear:

Spoiler

My pob: https://pastebin.com/N7Se6rrm

Thanks in advance!

Wand -> Helm -> Shield

Go in that order imo.

Before you do that, you want to look into your rings/belt first thoguh.
Both your rings lack life, that's a huge red flag.

If I were you, I would try to rebalance my resistances and dexterity.
You want to look for a belt with high life and T1 Dexterity. (You can craft one yourself with Essence spam, Deafening Essence with T1 Dex)

The goal is to get a belt with High Life, a secondary High resistance and hopefully a free Suffix so you can craft another resist. Or basically 2 high resistances and a free prefix so you can craft life.

Something like this isn't too expensive:

Since you already have Dex on boots and your amulet Dex will be completely sorted and the double resist on the belt makes fixing rings infinitely easier.

After you've got a good belt sorted you really want to look into fixing your rings. This means getting rings with High life and enough resistances to cap yourself.

On one of the rings, go for Frostbite on Hit and the other get +2 or +3 Levels (+2 is enough, I haven't lost my AG whole league, he's at 60k HP)

Also, make sure to get a free Prefix so you can craft lightning and fire damage to upgrade your wand.

Anoher option you have if you can't open free prefixes on your wand is to find a Labrunner on TFT.
You simply hand one of them your boots and tell him to enchant them with 1-160 lightning damage if you haven't killed recently. This costs 50 chaos and is an easy way to get any enchant you want.

I did it for my gloves and boots this league. Just takes a couple of hours since you'll most likely be in a queue.

EDIT: Also, im your chest, swap Predator for 21/0 Vaal Summon Skeletons. It will double your single target dps.

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imilenin a écrit :

Hello

Managed to get this one yesterday

As far as I understood - now it's time to swap back golems to the helm and to start scaling crit. What is the best way to do (except for the assassin mark ring ofc)?

Btw, what should I upgrade next and what is the best gem setup for specters/zombies in 3r/3b chest?

And is it worth to try the Feared with this build (all the bosses one at time are not a problem at all)?

As soon as you get a Brittle Shield Assassin's Mark start vastly outperforming Frostbite for single target.

To scale crit you simply want to accumilate as much crit chance and crit multi as possible.

Vicious Bite + Kingmaker gives your minions 30% base + 65% crit multi making them do 195% damage on crits. Assassins Mark gives an additional 40% crit multi for 235% dmg on crits.

Your next goal is to hit 100% crit chance.
Minions have 5% base crit, that helm gives 1% extra base crit and assassin's mark gives 1.5% base crit. Brittle Gives 5% base crit.

This all puts them at 12.5% base crit.

Minions recieve 200% crit chance per power charge, 100% from mastery and 30% from vicious bite. With 3 power charges(You should run one Host Chieftain) they recieve an additional 730% crit chance on top of their base crit.
Starting crit chance starts at 100% (If you have zero crit chance and base crit your crit is 5% * 1 = 5%). To calculate crit you simply add the 730% to the 1 making crit chance 830% or 8.3)

This puts your minions at:
12.5 * 8.3 = 103,75% crit chance, meaning 100%.

Minions in Chest have:
11.5 * 8.3 = 95.45% crit chance

At this point, every point of Crit multi basically is a 1% damage modifier.

The 1% base crit is not enough to warrant swapping Golems to Helm I think as their nearly at 100% crit chance in the chests already.

I think you want to keep your Golems in Chest
In your chest, (3b-3r) you will want to run:
Golems - 21/0 Vaal Skellies - Crit Multi Support - Multistrike - Empower(3/4) - Awakened Melee Phys

In your Helm you want to run:
Spectres - Zombies - Feeding Frenzy - Crit Multi Support

With ~100% crit chance Crit multi support starts to vastly outperform Awakened Minion Damage. You don't have to deal with the 25% less HP thing from Minion dmg either.

Keep in mind though, it only outperforms Minion damage IF your minions have blocked an attack and applied brittle to them and when you have Assassin's Mark up on them. Unless those conditions are met, your minions crit chance only is 6 * 830 = 50% at which point minion dmg is better.

The feared shouldn't be a problem, even with all bosses at the same time.

I suggest you try to do a Yellow the Hidden just to try out and see how fast you kill the breachlords. If a boss dies in ~10 sec I'm confident you can do the Feared with all bosses at the same time without any issue whatsoever.

Thanks a lot!

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Golems - 21/0 Vaal Skellies - Crit Multi Support - Multistrike - Empower(3/4) - Awakened Melee Phys

In your Helm you want to run:
Spectres - Zombies - Feeding Frenzy - Crit Multi Support

What about awakened multistrike and and divergent splashes for hydrosphere? Are they not good enough at this point?

And more thing - I'm currently lvl 95 for like several weeks with no real chances to lvl up. Is there any way to level up in more or less reliable way? I level up from 91 in heist but it is soooo boring

So is it better with 4xSO or x3 Crushclaw and x1 Host Chieftains?
Gotta say that spending 3ex for Gravebind with EW is really worth it!
Also why Crushclaw and Host Chieftains? Am summoner noob :>

Thanx

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imilenin a écrit :

Thanks a lot!

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Golems - 21/0 Vaal Skellies - Crit Multi Support - Multistrike - Empower(3/4) - Awakened Melee Phys

In your Helm you want to run:
Spectres - Zombies - Feeding Frenzy - Crit Multi Support

What about awakened multistrike and and divergent splashes for hydrosphere? Are they not good enough at this point?

And more thing - I'm currently lvl 95 for like several weeks with no real chances to lvl up. Is there any way to level up in more or less reliable way? I level up from 91 in heist but it is soooo boring

If you don't mind running Melee Splash and Hydrosphere, feel free to run it.

It's technically better, just annoying to use Hydrosphere against moving targets.

You can run The Front Line small cluster and become super tanky.
Could help you with leveling up in maps.

Other than that, easiest bet is to just do Rotations for levels.
If you want to level up solo play you need to tank up.

Getting things like Block cap, The Front Line small cluster et.c. makes you close to unkillable.

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konop88 a écrit :

So is it better with 4xSO or x3 Crushclaw and x1 Host Chieftains?
Gotta say that spending 3ex for Gravebind with EW is really worth it!
Also why Crushclaw and Host Chieftains? Am summoner noob :>

Thanx

I prefer Crabs more than SOs right now.
Mainly because I don't have a good Skin of the Lords for SOs.

It comes down to preference though.

Either you go with Zombies + Crushclaws or you go with SOs + Phantasms

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Deadandlivin a écrit :

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konop88 a écrit :

So is it better with 4xSO or x3 Crushclaw and x1 Host Chieftains?
Gotta say that spending 3ex for Gravebind with EW is really worth it!
Also why Crushclaw and Host Chieftains? Am summoner noob :>

Thanx

I prefer Crabs more than SOs right now.
Mainly because I don't have a good Skin of the Lords for SOs.

It comes down to preference though.

Either you go with Zombies + Crushclaws or you go with SOs + Phantasms

Let me know if you need a SO Skin with EE. I've finished the league, so mine is pretty much useless for me.

I want a Carrion build for the first time this season and wonder if I can trust the "Pob's".
Even the intermediate has - chaos resi.
Is chaos resi not important or what is the reason for the low chaos resi?

have a question concerning the curses
i gave my animate guardian gloves with elemental weakness on hit
i cast a curse myself
but it looks like, they erase each other
for 1 sec the boss has both on them an afterwards its only 1 again