[3.21] Cold Conversion Summoner | Build guides for all budgets | (Ghazzy Zoomancer)

I appreciate all the work done on this build, so sorry to ask for more, but I was wondering if it might be possible to get an updated AG section, perhaps just in scourge section temporarily. Right now I am not quite sure what the recommended setup is, i've gone through several pages and I was thinking:

Elevated -res helm (why no eye of malice anymore? Not enough neg res?)
Garb of the ephemeral/Doppelgänger Guise
EW gloves
Windscream
Kingmaker


Nah, I found out after I died, got back in the map, and noticed that I only had my skitterbots. I slapped my 5head good.

For the same price as a regular inpulsa, that scourge mod seems pretty good though.
Dernière édition par AppleEnder, le 15 nov. 2021 20:41:05
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AppleEnder a écrit :
Alright, so I lost my AG to reflect. Wasn't paying attention and here I am.
Then I realized that the scourge mod "You and your minions take %reduced reflected elemental damage" exists.
Would getting this on the Inpulsa's make dying to reflect a lot harder with the leech?


Nah, I found out after I died, got back in the map, and noticed that I only had my skitterbots. I slapped my 5head good.

For the same price as a regular inpulsa, that scourge mod seems pretty good though.


I use that impulsa setup for 50% immunity and take 50% from pantheon to reach 100% , guard is too expensive to die, i rather die instead of him heh.


I still did not get bored of this build because i enjoy clicking no buttons very much, last league i quit after week with OP miner character, this league i actually enjoy playing because of golembros.


Just did 30/30 simulacrum solo with this build with 0% block chance.
This build really is not good for simulacrum farming in my humble opinion, dps is 100mil too low something you will not fix with 1 more curse, you die in single hit from red boss(i have positive chaos resist and it still shrekt me with one of the attacks with certain round rolls) and minions die all the time i had around 26bosses(white and red boss were spawning at once pretty much every round after some point) in these 30 rounds I had to resummon my minions around 50 times even with minion life helm, especially zombies died a lot.

And they died to bosses to be more specific, trash was not much of issue.

I starter as 2SO 2CLAW, failed to find SO with desecrate inside simulacrum after it died so i ended up with 3CLAW 1SO then i died and resummoned back to 2-2
I also did maven, sirus(many times) shaper and elder with this build and those go quick and easy. But around simulacrum bosses i gotta run around what appears to me to be minute perhaps more, dangerous minute at that.


Possible? Sure but I would not promise someone to do 30/30 in his simulacrum as carry.

Positive thing: My AG never droped below 90% life, he is chaos resist capped that might be why my other minions that do not have max chaos resist die there.



I'm saving up few exalts, what is the next upgrade, headhunter? Or is there something cheaper that makes sense for me.
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Lost some exalts to try if the +crit actually makes any difference to the clear.
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Dernière édition par CAKE, le 15 nov. 2021 21:21:24
Hey how can I fit in grace and determination? Got a hatred auls and slotted in grace on gloves but don't seem to have the mana (or gem slot) for determination?
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SutCractus a écrit :
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Deadandlivin a écrit :
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AppleEnder a écrit :
Alright, so I lost my AG to reflect. Wasn't paying attention and here I am.
Then I realized that the scourge mod "You and your minions take %reduced reflected elemental damage" exists.
Would getting this on the Inpulsa's make dying to reflect a lot harder with the leech?



Did he explode himself with Inpulsa in an Ele reflect map?


What are the best gear for our AG right now? I got lost with a few suggestions


Imo the best setup is:

Helm: Double elevated awakened orb -12% cold res 9% increased ele dmg taken helm. (This helm is 10ex +)
Weapon: Kingmaker
Gloves: Gravebind with EW corruption
Boots: Windshriek with 2% regen enchant
Chest: Inpulsa

For this setup to work you need tp cap your AG resistances and it's REQUIRED that you run Indomitable Army and most likely a Ghastly Eye jewel with 10% all ele resistances.
With this setup you want to run Anomalous AG for 60% increased effect which is insane. It extends inpulsa explosions alot. Against harder trash monsters like 30% delirius it's invaluable because the Inpulsa explosions spread Elemental Weakness which almost doubles your clear speed.
This allows me to get 5/6 bars of loot on simulacrums every wave, even wave 30 compared to skelly mage builds who usually finish with 3/4 bars of loot when I've watched.

I haven't lost my AG a single time (so far) and he survived wave 30 sims which tells me he's tanky enough for now. Kosis did some oneshot stuff that killed my Carrion Golems, this brought my AG to 60% which was scary though cause his regen is low.

With a 20 ex helm I'm sure most people would want to be their AG to be very tanky though.
If that's the case you want to run Doppleganger, Divergent 21 AG and some random gloves to cap ALL resistances.



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Domo a écrit :
What is your recommendation on a tree and gem setup with 1crab? Regular SO support gems?

Also the 'SO full dps' PoB is broken.


I fixed the link on the frontpage.
It had one letter to many which broke the link.
This is the PoB:

https://pastebin.com/021FkPpy

With higher budgets you will run Spectres in chest and not helm, which is kinda annoying since we would want to swap gem colors around.

Either you run 5blue-1green for the optimal dps setup or 4blue-2green for the optimal clearing setup:

4b-2g:
Single Tarrget: Spectre - Phantasm - Awk Minion Dmg - Anomalous Predator - Div Hypothermia - Awk Cold Pen
Clear: Spectre - Phantasm - Awk Minion Dmg - Crit Dmg Support - Awk GMP - Faster Projectile Support

5b-1g:
Single Tarrget: Spectre - Phantasm - Awk Minion Dmg - Anomalous Predator - Increased Crit Dmg - Awk Cold Pen
Clear: Spectre - Phantasm - Awk Minion Dmg - Crit Dmg Support - Awk GMP - Increased Critical Chance support or Awk Elemental Focus if you want to lose the freeze(Not recommended
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Jin86 a écrit :
https://pastebin.com/izr5K38D

I set it up by picking up some items in the stash, surely I will have to fix the flasks and the boots first (to have the resistances capped).
I join Domo's request, better Aw Elemental Damage + Greater Volley (+ phanstasm of course) for the specter 3+1?


Elemental dmg with Attacks doesn't work on Phantasms unfortunately beause they're spell casters.
That's why we're not using Vicious Projectiles or Elemental dmg with Attacks :(
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Domo a écrit :
I appreciate all the work done on this build, so sorry to ask for more, but I was wondering if it might be possible to get an updated AG section, perhaps just in scourge section temporarily. Right now I am not quite sure what the recommended setup is, i've gone through several pages and I was thinking:

Elevated -res helm (why no eye of malice anymore? Not enough neg res?)
Garb of the ephemeral/Doppelgänger Guise
EW gloves
Windscream
Kingmaker


Good idea, I will write one on the front page since alot of ppl seem to want one.

I made an AG gear list some posts earlier.

On the topic of Eye of Malice, the helm is useless now since we can't bring down enemy resistances enough anymore.

In the past, EE + Cold Exposur was -65% cold res and put bosses like Sirus at -15%.

Then we slapped EW, Frostbite, Anomalous Predator et.c. ontop of it And got bosses to like -45% cold or something. This was multiplied by 1.5 which got them down to -70% cold res which was a massive dps boost.<

Now we get bosses down to 13% before bosses (25% from EE and 8% from mastery)
Curses and Predator brings them down to like, -10% maybe?
This makes Eye of Malice only reduce cold res by around 5% instead of 12% from a elevated helm. This is when monster resistance is at 50% too.
I've gotten mods on Sim maps where monsters have +80% cold resistance.
In these cases, no matter how much curses et.c. Eye of Malice would increase their cold resistance instead and nerf your dmg.
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LordHooch a écrit :
Hey how can I fit in grace and determination? Got a hatred auls and slotted in grace on gloves but don't seem to have the mana (or gem slot) for determination?


Annoint Charisma on your amulet and path differently to get Death Attunement (Check the PoBs).

To fit Determination, buy a lvl 3 Awakened Cold Penetration and put it in your chest. That will give you 15% exposure to the build.

After that, remove Elemental Army from Zombies, recolor shield and use Determination.
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CAKE a écrit :
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AppleEnder a écrit :
Alright, so I lost my AG to reflect. Wasn't paying attention and here I am.
Then I realized that the scourge mod "You and your minions take %reduced reflected elemental damage" exists.
Would getting this on the Inpulsa's make dying to reflect a lot harder with the leech?


Nah, I found out after I died, got back in the map, and noticed that I only had my skitterbots. I slapped my 5head good.

For the same price as a regular inpulsa, that scourge mod seems pretty good though.


I use that impulsa setup for 50% immunity and take 50% from pantheon to reach 100% , guard is too expensive to die, i rather die instead of him heh.


I still did not get bored of this build because i enjoy clicking no buttons very much, last league i quit after week with OP miner character, this league i actually enjoy playing because of golembros.


Just did 30/30 simulacrum solo with this build with 0% block chance.
This build really is not good for simulacrum farming in my humble opinion, dps is 100mil too low something you will not fix with 1 more curse, you die in single hit from red boss(i have positive chaos resist and it still shrekt me with one of the attacks with certain round rolls) and minions die all the time i had around 26bosses(white and red boss were spawning at once pretty much every round after some point) in these 30 rounds I had to resummon my minions around 50 times even with minion life helm, especially zombies died a lot.

And they died to bosses to be more specific, trash was not much of issue.

I starter as 2SO 2CLAW, failed to find SO with desecrate inside simulacrum after it died so i ended up with 3CLAW 1SO then i died and resummoned back to 2-2
I also did maven, sirus(many times) shaper and elder with this build and those go quick and easy. But around simulacrum bosses i gotta run around what appears to me to be minute perhaps more, dangerous minute at that.


Possible? Sure but I would not promise someone to do 30/30 in his simulacrum as carry.

Positive thing: My AG never droped below 90% life, he is chaos resist capped that might be why my other minions that do not have max chaos resist die there.



I'm saving up few exalts, what is the next upgrade, headhunter? Or is there something cheaper that makes sense for me.
edit

Lost some exalts to try if the +crit actually makes any difference to the clear.


Gratz on clearing wave 30!
Absolute insanity to do them without changing your tree btw :)
I'm rally impressed that you managed to do them without zero block. I tried that earlier, got them wave 29 some times but would just get randomly oneshot too much from the trash mobs too much wasting portals.

With capped block it's actually easy and very farmable very fomfortably. Only thing that kills you will be the slams from the bosses or shotgunning and crits from elemental stuff that bypasses your block.

The fact that you did wave 30 with zero points invested into minion survivability however is nothing short of insanity.
As soon as you see your minions dying you should look to get into your hideout and respecc into more survival. Sacrificing your own life for it is worth it.

Indomitable Army + 8% ele res with Bone Offering was enough for my minions to survive everything up to Wave30 Kosis.
Wave 30 Kosis started doing some multi slam attack thing infront of him that oneshot my Carrion Golems and Zombies once since I had no Bone Offering Up(No corpses). I've gotten Empower4 for my Golems now so they don't die anylonger.

I might even put point into Decay Ward to ensure that even my Zombies survive Wave30.

The important thing to know about Simulacrum farming is that if your minions survive, it's very comfortable to farm it.
Taunt Jewels are absolutely broken as you can taunt the bosses infinitely and they will just stand there and take it.

If you watch my Sim30 video at the end you can see this in action:
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tU5qq3j4qI&ab_channel=HenrikSwanstr%C3%B6m

What you basically do is split the bosses and kill them one by one.
With a taunt jewel and tanky enough minions it's actually very easy since they don't do anything.

Keep in mind that I also got the two worst mods possible for wave30, 60% cold res and 40% more life mods. Made killing the bosses take WAY too long.

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