[3.21] Cold Conversion Summoner | Build guides for all budgets | (Ghazzy Zoomancer)

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Alvarohur a écrit :

Hi, i reroled my carrion physical impale build for this (with medium budged SO in mind), because i like so much the SO's, and i dont know what im doing wrong. I know my gear is not so good, but i thougt i was going to do so much DPS for this investment.

I need to change the cluster for one with Vicious Bite instead COTS, try to find another unset ring to put convocation and frosbite/lifetap in trigger wand. Im saving for a skin of the lords too.

But i see people with similar gear doing 5-10 million Sirus DPS, while for me takes like 20 seconds to kill a map boss. Defense is not good too, but i dont care if i can kill mobs before they kill me, but is not the case. Thanks in advance for your advise!

POB: https://pastebin.com/R3emcY4y

edit: i forgot to say i have AG with Kingmaker and elemental weakness on kit gloves

1) You have to use Frostbite instead of Assassin's Mark.
2) Your survivability will skyrocket as soon you take Grace.
3) Your tree is a bit underoptimized.
4) I would highly recommend you to use Inpulsa's + Gravebind on the AG. This setup is absolutely insane.
5) Do you use Windscream boots on the AG ?
6) The cluster jewel is very bad. Just remove it, sacrificing Covenant. In does not give you any damage unless you use a shield with damage for chance to block.
7) Your trigger setup does not work. You have no enough mana. To solve the problem you have to buy a Victario's with Determination corrupt and add lifetap to the wand.
8) I would highly recommend you to change your Sapphire Ring on an Unset one with Frostbite on Hit mod and to start using Frostbite to trigger this curse.
P.S. your current Unset Ring is absolutely amazing. Just curious, how much you've spent on it ?

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Alvarohur a écrit :

Hi, i reroled my carrion physical impale build for this (with medium budged SO in mind), because i like so much the SO's, and i dont know what im doing wrong. I know my gear is not so good, but i thougt i was going to do so much DPS for this investment.

I need to change the cluster for one with Vicious Bite instead COTS, try to find another unset ring to put convocation and frosbite/lifetap in trigger wand. Im saving for a skin of the lords too.

But i see people with similar gear doing 5-10 million Sirus DPS, while for me takes like 20 seconds to kill a map boss. Defense is not good too, but i dont care if i can kill mobs before they kill me, but is not the case. Thanks in advance for your advise!

POB: https://pastebin.com/R3emcY4y

edit: i forgot to say i have AG with Kingmaker and elemental weakness on kit gloves

I checked your PoB and fixed all the configurations. If I've done everythign correct you should have 5.4 million dps if you swap GMP for Hypothermia.

Your dps without Power Charges against bosses like Sirus is 4.4 million dps.

This is your current PoB:
https://pastebin.com/js4tpLmT

To polish your PoB I did some minor things that will have a great effect:
1. Got you a 3R-3B Skin of the Lord, keystone doesn't matter. It's not an EE one so should be pretty cheap.
2. Leveled all your gems to 20/20.
3. Put in an Awakened Cold Penetration, Awakened Minion Dmg and Awakened Melee Phys in the build. All of these are very important.
You want them all to be level 5 asap. Minion dmg and Melee phys only have to be lvl 3 because Skin of the Lords give them +2 levels.
4. Got yourself an Unset Ring so you can use Determination in Ring.
This allows you to run Frostbite in weapon with Lifetap so you have mana to cast Flesh Offering and Frostbite.
I suggest that you REMOVE the trigger and craft 15% minion attack speed instead. Otherwise you won't be able to control when you cast Frostbite as the trigger puts it on a 8 sec cooldown which is very bad for bossfights.
5. Alternate Quality Flesh Offering.
6. Fixed your gem setup for Golems and Spectres. This setup runs the maximum damage. Even if you don't like running Predator support, always keep them in your bag so you're ready to swap them for harder bosses.
This allows you to ensure 100% uptime on bosses and it provides the biggest dps increase.
For general mapping you can swap Predator for Elemental Focus on your Golems. I would keep Predator on Spectres to allow them to continue freezing monsters.
7. Gave your AG a -9% cold res helm. These can be expensive but are VERY easy to craft. Just use Frigid fossils or spam cold reforge harvest crafts on the base until you get it.

This is the PoB I came up with. Look through it carefully. By implementing these changes I managed to get your dps up to 10 million. This is with no changes to your gear apart from adding an unset ring and a Skin of the Lords.

EDIT: Sorry, forgot updated PoB
https://pastebin.com/FuRXaBx9

Sorry for asking the same thing but I would also like a little help with my build, can I improve my damage or survival in some way?

right now you use 3 SO and 1 Crushclaw?

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carnielfz a écrit :

Sorry for asking the same thing but I would also like a little help with my build, can I improve my damage or survival in some way?

right now you use 3 SO and 1 Crushclaw?

Hi! Nice gear on your character, it's very similar to mine :)

Can I have your PoB?
Also, what items do you have on your AG?

I'm assuming that you want to level up in peace and avoid deaths.
If that's what you want, I suggest you run Divergent Bone Offering instead of Flesh Offering. This will help your survivability alot.

Biggest things you can do right now to increase your damage is get your Awakened Melee phys to level 3 so you get Intidmidate.
After that you should look into upgrading your wand.

If you want more burst damage to oneshot bosses, for example killing Sirus in his first teleport you can run Vaal Haste instead of Grace. Can't evade his spells anyway.

Running Vaal Haste in maps with Flesh Offering will make you VERY squishy though, impossible to level with that setup. Vaal Grace + Bone Offering is the way to go if you want to level while Flesh and Haste is the way to go if you want to farm money fast.
Remember to run Predator on BOTH golems and spectres for single target. Increased crit dmg isn't a strong support gem. I only run it because I don't like using Predator while mapping.
Awakened Elemental Focus is probably the better inteligence gem to use but because we run Divergent Hypothermia I'm not sure if it disables it from working. So with that in mind, use Predator for both minions during single target.

I'm testing 3 SOs and 1 crab again. Now that we run spectres in our helm it's very flexible to swap between them and test things out.
If you want too, you can vorici color and get 2 white sockets and 2 blue. This allows you to run any combination you like.

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Its_OP a écrit :

1) You have to use Frostbite instead of Assassin's Mark.
2) Your survivability will skyrocket as soon you take Grace.
3) Your tree is a bit underoptimized.
4) I would highly recommend you to use Inpulsa's + Gravebind on the AG. This setup is absolutely insane.
5) Do you use Windscream boots on the AG ?
6) The cluster jewel is very bad. Just remove it, sacrificing Covenant. In does not give you any damage unless you use a shield with damage for chance to block.
7) Your trigger setup does not work. You have no enough mana. To solve the problem you have to buy a Victario's with Determination corrupt and add lifetap to the wand.
8) I would highly recommend you to change your Sapphire Ring on an Unset one with Frostbite on Hit mod and to start using Frostbite to trigger this curse.
P.S. your current Unset Ring is absolutely amazing. Just curious, how much you've spent on it ?

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Deadandlivin a écrit :

I checked your PoB and fixed all the configurations. If I've done everythign correct you should have 5.4 million dps if you swap GMP for Hypothermia.

Your dps without Power Charges against bosses like Sirus is 4.4 million dps.

This is your current PoB:
https://pastebin.com/js4tpLmT

To polish your PoB I did some minor things that will have a great effect:
1. Got you a 3R-3B Skin of the Lord, keystone doesn't matter. It's not an EE one so should be pretty cheap.
2. Leveled all your gems to 20/20.
3. Put in an Awakened Cold Penetration, Awakened Minion Dmg and Awakened Melee Phys in the build. All of these are very important.
You want them all to be level 5 asap. Minion dmg and Melee phys only have to be lvl 3 because Skin of the Lords give them +2 levels.
4. Got yourself an Unset Ring so you can use Determination in Ring.
This allows you to run Frostbite in weapon with Lifetap so you have mana to cast Flesh Offering and Frostbite.
I suggest that you REMOVE the trigger and craft 15% minion attack speed instead. Otherwise you won't be able to control when you cast Frostbite as the trigger puts it on a 8 sec cooldown which is very bad for bossfights.
5. Alternate Quality Flesh Offering.
6. Fixed your gem setup for Golems and Spectres. This setup runs the maximum damage. Even if you don't like running Predator support, always keep them in your bag so you're ready to swap them for harder bosses.
This allows you to ensure 100% uptime on bosses and it provides the biggest dps increase.
For general mapping you can swap Predator for Elemental Focus on your Golems. I would keep Predator on Spectres to allow them to continue freezing monsters.
7. Gave your AG a -9% cold res helm. These can be expensive but are VERY easy to craft. Just use Frigid fossils or spam cold reforge harvest crafts on the base until you get it.

This is the PoB I came up with. Look through it carefully. By implementing these changes I managed to get your dps up to 10 million. This is with no changes to your gear apart from adding an unset ring and a Skin of the Lords.

Hi! Thanks you both for spending your time helping me. Your answers are so detailed and amazing. Now i have very low currency to invest, i spent all of it on the helm, unset ring, wand and some gems to get in to de build.
I can sell some stuff to buy change to skin of the lords and change to predator setup, awakened gems are too expensive for me at the moment.
You are right with the trigger craft in wand, i bought with it but before i got another unset ring for determination is useless, i will remove the craft, victarios with Determination corruption is 4-5ex so is not an option now.

My AG has Windscream boots, so can apply additional curse, the cluster is what i had befor respec, i dont know if is better to buy one with only Vicious Bite and Renewal until i have the currency for 3-notable.

Thanks a lot for the advices (and sorry if my english is not good), as soon as i come back to the game i will try to improve my build, i have the first sirus 8 of the league waiting and i hope can do it. Its incredible that with almost no changes in gear i can almost double the damage

Pd: Its_op, i bought the unset ring this afternoon for ~30c, i needed a lot of resistance and didnt know the ring was so good

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Deadandlivin a écrit :

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carnielfz a écrit :

Sorry for asking the same thing but I would also like a little help with my build, can I improve my damage or survival in some way?

right now you use 3 SO and 1 Crushclaw?

Hi! Nice gear on your character, it's very similar to mine :)

Can I have your PoB?
Also, what items do you have on your AG?

I'm assuming that you want to level up in peace and avoid deaths.
If that's what you want, I suggest you run Divergent Bone Offering instead of Flesh Offering. This will help your survivability alot.

Biggest things you can do right now to increase your damage is get your Awakened Melee phys to level 3 so you get Intidmidate.
After that you should look into upgrading your wand.

If you want more burst damage to oneshot bosses, for example killing Sirus in his first teleport you can run Vaal Haste instead of Grace. Can't evade his spells anyway.

Running Vaal Haste in maps with Flesh Offering will make you VERY squishy though, impossible to level with that setup. Vaal Grace + Bone Offering is the way to go if you want to level while Flesh and Haste is the way to go if you want to farm money fast.
Remember to run Predator on BOTH golems and spectres for single target. Increased crit dmg isn't a strong support gem. I only run it because I don't like using Predator while mapping.
Awakened Elemental Focus is probably the better inteligence gem to use but because we run Divergent Hypothermia I'm not sure if it disables it from working. So with that in mind, use Predator for both minions during single target.

I'm testing 3 SOs and 1 crab again. Now that we run spectres in our helm it's very flexible to swap between them and test things out.
If you want too, you can vorici color and get 2 white sockets and 2 blue. This allows you to run any combination you like.

https://pastebin.com/RR4BLKhf

Thanks, I always try to keep up with you, thanks to your guide, I learned a lot, I've been playing for about 3 months.

My AG use
Helm - Redeemer some resistance and Nearby Enemies -9% to Cold Resistance
Chest - Garb of the Ephemeral
Gloves - Elemental Weakness on hit 48%
Weapon - Kingmaker
Boots - Windshriek

Thanks again for the help.

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Hi! Thanks you both for spending your time helping me. Your answers are so detailed and amazing. Now i have very low currency to invest, i spent all of it on the helm, unset ring, wand and some gems to get in to de build.
I can sell some stuff to buy change to skin of the lords and change to predator setup, awakened gems are too expensive for me at the moment.
You are right with the trigger craft in wand, i bought with it but before i got another unset ring for determination is useless, i will remove the craft, victarios with Determination corruption is 4-5ex so is not an option now.

My AG has Windscream boots, so can apply additional curse, the cluster is what i had befor respec, i dont know if is better to buy one with only Vicious Bite and Renewal until i have the currency for 3-notable.

Thanks a lot for the advices (and sorry if my english is not good), as soon as i come back to the game i will try to improve my build, i have the first sirus 8 of the league waiting and i hope can do it. Its incredible that with almost no changes in gear i can almost double the damage

Pd: Its_op, i bought the unset ring this afternoon for ~30c, i needed a lot of resistance and didnt know the ring was so good

Forgot to add updated PoB:
https://pastebin.com/FuRXaBx9

Just take the upgrades one at a time. At your current gear level I think your best method for farming would be running Heist. Simply run through all your contracts to farm up reveals and rogue markers. When you've got no contracts left, run Unusual Gems and Replica Unique blueprints for all of it.

Doing one batch of ~200 contracts with blue prints to follow netted me 90 ex in the end after scanning my tab with Excilence.

This build is very good at running Heists early on when gear isn't up to date to farm essentials. Once you start getting strong upgrades you will be able to comfortably farm more juiced content and bosses. You can technically farm things like Guardians and Maven invitations but it's gonna be a misreble experience if you can't oneshot them. Especially if you're not running a tanky version of the build.

Hmm is it better to run determination or vaal grace for survivability?

@Deadandlivin

I've noticed you've chosen a pretty unusual Quality type for your AG gem. Does it improve explosions noticeably ?

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Rizzelo a écrit :

Hmm is it better to run determination or vaal grace for survivability?

Both.